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1  General / General Discussion / World Agenda: the Taleban? They're puppets of the US. - Times newspaper of UK on: June 12, 2009, 05:53:55 AM
Read the following two article about US and Taliban - the denouncers of Taliban - and the actions of the US running  dogs against their denouncers.  The following article by the Times attempts to shield itself from outward criticism by throwing in the words 'conspiracy theory' but it is in effect saying that these ideas are not just conspiracy theories and have some legitimacy to them.

World Agenda: the Taleban? They're puppets of the US

June 9, 2009

US and British officials are no doubt delighted to see tribesmen in northwestern Pakistan fighting the Taleban after years of sheltering, tolerating or supporting them. Elsewhere in the country, there has also been an unprecedented wave of public, political and even religious support for the army’s campaign in Swat, despite the massive exodus of refugees.

This appears to show that Pakistanis have at last heeded Western warnings that the militancy they face is indigenous and threatens the existence of the Pakistani state.

What is less encouraging — and less well advertised — is that a key reason for the backlash is that many Pakistanis believe the Taleban is being funded and armed by America as part of an elaborate geopolitical conspiracy.

Absurd as it may sound to Westerners this conspiracy theory, like so many others in Pakistan, seems to have taken root among even well-educated people in the political, military and religious establishments.

It was outlined recently in an interview with Sarfraz Ahmed Naeemi, a respected Sunni cleric who set up an alliance of 22 Islamic groups and political parties last month with the explicit goal of opposing the Taleban.

He explained that the Taleban preached an extreme version of the Deobandi school of Sunni Islam, while most Pakistanis followed the more moderate Barelvi school.

He said that many Pakistanis were outraged when the Taleban attacked Barelvi shrines, and denounced Pakistan’s constitution and democratic system as unIslamic.

Halfway through the interview, however, he suddenly added that the Taleban was also being funded and trained by the CIA, Mossad, and India’s RAW intelligence agency. Why? As part of a strategy to carve out an independent statelet in northwestern Pakistan to help to contain China’s growing military and economic power. And to capture Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.

So America is now funding the Pakistani army and using CIA drones to attack militants who are in fact funded and armed by America?


And what about the militants blamed for last year’s attack on Mumbai? They were Indian intelligence agents who staged the attack to give India an excuse to exact revenge by staging another attack — this time on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore.

And why would India want to do that? So that Pakistan would not be able to co-host the 2011 cricket World Cup, of course.

He went on to say that most of his fellow clerics felt the same way, and many included such theories in their sermons at Friday prayers. No wonder such ideas spread fast across the country — 45 per cent of which is illiterate — and are reinforced through repetition in the domestic media, especially the Urdu-language press.

Nor are these theories confined to the civilian population.

A few days after the interview with Dr Naeemi , a senior Pakistani security official admitted that similar views were common in the army and the intelligence service, although they were not official policy.

His justification made slightly more sense, although it was equally hard to prove or disprove: he claimed that the CIA had on at least one occasion had Baitullah Mehsud, the Pakistani Taleban chief, in the sights of one of its drones but had decided not to kill him.

He was also convinced that Washington had never wanted Pakistan to have nuclear weapons, and cited US media reports about contingency plans for American special forces to secure, or destroy, Pakistan’s atomic facilities.

Yes, he conceded, there was an unprecedented level of public support for the Pakistani army. Just don’t confuse that with support for the United States.


That article appeared June 9th and on June 12th the religious scholar is assassinated - but is hardly covered in any western press.

Suicide Attack In Lahore Religious Scholar Sarfraz Naeemi Killed
June 12th, 2009

LAHORE: Renowned religious scholar and principal of Jamia Naeemia Lahore Dr Sarfraz Ahmed Naeemi among three people were killed in a suicide attack at his seminary here Friday.

The blast that apparently was a suicide attack occurred following the Jumma prayer in the seminary situated at Garhi Shahu area of the metropolis.

According to preliminary reports, the blast was occurred in the office of Dr Sarfraz Ahmed Naeemi, the principle of one of the largest religious seminary of the city. Naeemi was present in his office at the time of the blast, says an eyewitness.

The blast was as powerful as it completely destroyed the offices building and also damaged the nearby installations of the seminary.

Rescuers and law enforcement personnel have arrived at the scene and the injured were being rushed to Mayo Hospital, Ganga Ram Hospital and other nearby hospitals.



Benazir Bhutto was also of the view that the Taliban and others around and behind it are proxies of the US - and she specifically mentioned BAITULLAH Mehsud as being an 'Afghan Warlord'  ------  anyhow - she was removed twice from premiership when she dared to criticize the US and the Islamists and eventually assassinated.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg</a>
2  General / General Discussion / 2009 announced Year of Imam Azam Abu Hanifa in Tajikistan on: June 11, 2009, 09:46:18 PM
Focusing on Islamic Heritage


The Times of Central Asia

Addressing a meeting dedicated to the 17th anniversary of Tajikistan’s Independence, President Emomali Rahmon announced that the year of 2009 will be Year of Imama Azam in Tajikistan.

The president noted that separation of Islam from Tajik national culture and separation of Tajik national culture from Islam is erroneous.

The Tajik head of state noted that 1,310 birthday anniversary of Al-Imam al-A’zam, “The Greatest Imam” Nu’man bin Thabit bin Zuta bin Mahan, better known by his kunya as Abu H?an?fah, who was the founder of the Sunni Hanafi school of Islamic jurisprudence.

Al-Imam al-A’zam, “The Greatest Imam” Nu’man bin Thabit bin Zuta bin Mahan, better known by his kunya as Abu H?an?fah, (699 — 767 CE / 80 — 148 AH) was the founder of the Sunni Hanafi school of Islamic jurisprudence.

Abu Hanifa was also one of the Tabi’een, the generation after the Sahaba, because he saw the Sahabi Anas ibn Malik, and transmitted hadiths from him and other Sahaba.

Abu Hanifa (699 — 767 CE / 80 — 148 AH) was born in Kufa, Iraq during the reign of the powerful Umayyad capilph Abdul Malik bin Marwan.  Acclaimed as Al-Imam al-A’zam, or Al-A’dham (the Great Imam), Nu’man bin Thabit bin Zuta bin Mah was better known by his kunya Abu Hanifa. It was not a true kunya, as he did not have a son called Hanifa, but an epithetical one meaning pure in monotheistic belief. His father, Thabit bin Zuta, a trader from Kabul, part of Khorasan in Persia, (the capital of modern day Afghanistan),was 40 years old at the time of Abu Hanifa’s birth.

His ancestry is generally accepted as being of non-Arab origin as suggested by the etymology of then names of his grandfather (Zuta) and great-grandfather (Mah). The historian, Al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, records a statement from Abu Hanifa’s grandson, Ismail bin Hammad, who gave Abu Hanifa’s lineage as Thabit bin Numan bin Marzban and claiming to be of Persian origin. The discrepancy in the names, as given by Ismail of Abu Hanifa’s grandfather and great-grandfather are thought to be due to Zuta’s adoption of a muslim name (Numan) upon his acceptance of Islam and that Mah and Marzban were titles or official designations in Persia. Further differences of opinion exist on his ancestry. Abu Muti, for example, describes Abu Hanifa as an Arab citing his ancestry as Numan bin Thabit bin Zuta bin Yahya bin Zaid bin Asad. The widely accepted opinion, however, is that he was of Persian ancestry.


Hanafi school recognized as official religion of Tajikistan

05.03.2009 15:48

Author: Avaz Yuldoshev

DUSHANBE, March 5, 2009, Asia-Plus -- The Majlisi Namoyandagon (Tajikistan’s lower chamber of parliament) has endorsed a bill recognizing the Hanafi school as an official religion of Tajikistan.

A regular sitting of the fifth session of the Majlisi Namoyandagon of the third convocation, presided over by its head, Saydullo Khairulloyev, was held on March 5.

The draft law of Tajikistan “On Freedom of Conscience and Religious Associations” was a major topic of the meeting.

Presenting the bill, Culture Minister Mirzoshorukh Asrori noted that the draft law should replace the country the country's law “On Freedom of Conscience and Religious Associations” that was adopted in 1990 already.

“Religious radicalism, nihilism and some other religious movements alien to our people that emerged in society lately are among reasons for adoption of the new law,” the minister said.

According to him, preparation of the bill lasted for two years and Tajik specialists and religious scholars as well as representatives of public associations and international experts from the OSCE took part in discussion of the bill.  Asrori noted that they had taken into consideration an alternative bill worked out by senior representatives of the Islamic Revival Party (IRPT) Muhiddin Kabiri and Mahmadsharif Himmatzoda, while preparing the bill.

Some 3,000 mosques, including 259 cathedral mosques, as well as 18 religious educational facilities currently function in the country, the minister said.  “Parishioners of all these mosques and students at these educational facilities are followers of the Hanafi school.  Therefore we propose to recognize the Hanafi school as an official religion of Tajikistan.”

Parliamentarians endorsed the ill without any serious discussions.

Among the four established Sunni schools of legal thought in Islam, the Hanafi school is the oldest, Abu Hanifa was the first to systematically arrange and compile Islamic law.  A unique feature of the school is the method in which the law was codified:  Abu Hanifa would convene and preside over a board of jurists (consisting of about 40-50 of his own students) and each would give his own opinion on a particular legal issue, Abu Hanifa would then decide which is the opinion that is to be selected by corroborating it or sometimes would offer his own unique opinion.  The Hanafi school also has the most followers among the four major Sunni schools.

Today, the Hanafi school is predominant among the Sunnis of Central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, China as well as in Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Albania, Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia in the Balkans and the Caucasus.

It is great that president of Tajikistan has done this -  Abu Hanifa being reclaimed from the many 'Islamic' militant running dogs of US imperialism (e.g.Hizb ut Tahrir and others ) which do all sorts in the name of Sunni-Hanafi Islam.  It will aide the efforts to keep the people of Tajikistan from suffering the way people Afghanistan suffered through the exploitation of religion by blood thirsty CIA and Oil companies.

Check out the unbelievable editorial by the US government in the VOA recently about their 'concern' at the treatment of Muslims in Tajikistan - the bastards are busy trying to destabilize Tajikistan using its running dogs in order to get a justification to go in full force - just like it did in Afghanistan with its Taliban running dogs.


Editorial VOA :  Tajikistan's New Law On Religion

17 April 2009    

Tajikistan's new law on religion will make life tougher on all of the country's believers, not least of all those professing the country's predominant religion, Islam.

In passing the new law, which entered into force on April 1st, the government of Tajikistan reserves for itself the right to dictate to the people how many places of worship will be allowed to operate and where they may be located, and how often prayers may be observed. The law allows for censorship of religious literature, and outlaws several minority faiths.

According to the independent United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, which monitors the status of freedom of religion, the new law "will legalize harsh policies already adopted by the Tajik government against its majority Muslim population, including the closure of hundreds of mosques and limiting religious education of children."

In passing this highly restrictive law, Tajikistan is reneging on its international obligations. The new law contravenes Article 18 of the United Nations International Covenant for Civil and Political rights, which provides for religious freedom, which had been signed by Tajikistan. Moreover, as a member of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, Tajikistan is obliged to conform to that organization's tenets defining freedom of religion.

Article 26 of the Constitution of Tajikistan states that "Every person has the right freely to determine their position toward religion, to profess any religion individually or together with others or not to profess any, and to take part in religious customs and ceremonies. By defining which religious organizations may or may not operate within Tajikistan, and by dictating how, when, where and how often citizens may practice or teach their religion, the new law directly contradicts the country's own Constitution.

In a recent speech, U.S. President Barack Obama said: "Freedom of religion and expression lead to a strong and vibrant civil society that only strengthens the state."

The government of Tajikistan should re-think its newly legislated restrictions on the freedom of religion. They benefit neither the people, nor the state of Tajikistan.
3  General / General Discussion / Two Rokhshanas and Khar Khalqis on: June 07, 2009, 05:18:15 PM
Hey guys,

I could not resist this:

Classic From Kabul

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drvL_xINkog" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drvL_xINkog</a>

Epic From Peshawar

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljy3EXtUehE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljy3EXtUehE</a>

LOL at 2:10. 

It is no wonder that the MULE & KHAR KHALQIS were pissed off and wanted to destroy the Persianate culture of the country - and establish a Pashtunist Mule Stalinist State.

Here they are celebrating their tribalism - after slaughtering 24000 Heratis and countless other in their reign of savagery......they later returned with beards along with Taliban to repeat their tribal crimes - this time not with RUBBOLS - but with KALDAR and DOLLARS.

Look at these savages - they hide behind rhetoric of Marxism and Lenninism and and evolution of man from primitive neanderthal to modern man yet these running dog MULE BREEDERS considered this acceptable:

A video of the gypsy turks whom adopted Pashtu language and attempted to create a

Pashtunist Mule Stalinist State.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6JcdRwH5Hs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6JcdRwH5Hs</a>

Led by Tribalist TARAKI who refused to speak any Persian- and later killed in the Pukhtun Khar way by his fellow fascist and supposed adopted son Amin .
4  General / General Discussion / Karmalist site Esalat promoting Pashtunist filth Puta Khazana on: June 05, 2009, 01:13:28 PM
Dorood guys and gals,

I was shocked to find that on the site of Esalat to find the active promotion of the PUTA KHAZANA and other PASHTUNIST filth.  Filth created in the Nadir and Zahir Shah era - the rulers and era which these so called communists hated !

The proclaims to be be a site dedicated to the thoughts of Babrak Karmal - the leader of the Parcham wing of the Hezbi Democratic e Khalqi Afghanistan.



Many educated Tajiks were prominent in Parcham followers of Karmal - and were utterly opposed to such tribalism - but now in their name - Puta Khazana is promoted.

These scumbag tribalists hide behind anything - and have no shame at all in promoting their filthy Pashtun domination propaganda. 
5  General / General Discussion / Afghanistan to host Reza Deghati photo show on Ahmad Shah massoud on: May 18, 2009, 09:17:01 AM
Afghanistan to host Reza Deghati photo show
Tehran Times Art Desk

TEHRAN -- Photos by the veteran Iranian photojournalist Reza Deghati on Ahmad Shah Massoud will go on display in Afghanistan.

He will showcase a selection of photos he has taken over the past 30 years of Afghan people during an exhibition at the Panjsher Valley beginning May 22.

Known as the Lion of Panjsher, Ahmad Shah Massoud was one of the most popular of the anti-Soviet resistance leaders. He was the target of a successful suicide attack in Afghanistan on September 9, 2001. Born in Tabriz in 1952, Deghati began his career at 14. He later studied architecture at the University of Tehran.

Between 1978 and 1979, the Islamic Revolution shifted his focus from the countryside, and he covered the event for Agence France-Presse (AFP).

His work for AFP attracted the attention of Newsweek, for whom he became a correspondent in Iran from 1978 to 1981. He then became a Middle East correspondent for Time from 1983 to 1988. From 1989 to 1990, he served as a consultant to the United Nations humanitarian program in Afghanistan.

In 2005, Reza was honored with the title of “Chevalier de l’Ordre du Mérite” by President of France, Jacques Chirac. He also received the 2006 Missouri Honor Medal of the world’s first school of journalism.

He is also the president of Aina, an NGO that promotes the development of independent media in Afghanistan.

The War Memorial Museum in Caen, France hosted a selection of photos previously published in his book “War and Peace” in February 2009.


No body should interpret this as Akhondi Shaitan Iran being allies of A.S.Massoud......he was just an Iranian born - non government free lance photographer... whom was recognized by Chirac for his work - and not some ministry of the empire of QOM.

6  General / General Discussion / The Afghan Bulldozer on: May 18, 2009, 09:08:53 AM
The Afghan Bulldozer


By Mohammed Al Shafey

London, Asharq Al-Awsat - "Yesterday's foes are today's friends and perhaps tomorrow's enemies. It all depends upon [one's] interests." This statement has been used time and time again to the course of Afghan politics from Mujahedeen's wars prior to the rise of the Taliban in 1996, and even following the collapse of this extremist movement's regime in late 2001.

Today this statement can be applied to what is happening between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and former warlord Mohamed Qasim Fahim, whom Karzai announced that he wished to appoint as vice-President. This is an attempt by Karzai to strengthen his position by allying with leaders who enjoy popularity and influence in Afghanistan, and control militias, even if they are former warlords, and even if some of them, like Fahim, are considered to be major oppositional figure to Karzai having fought alongside Ahmed Shah Massoud.

In spite of the international criticism faced by Karzai for choosing Fahim to [stand] for the post of vice-president, Karzai defended his choice and asserted that the former warlord who has been accused of committing [war] crimes knows how to unite the country, especially since he is a member of the Tajik ethnic group, which is the second largest ethnic group in the country. President Karzai himself is a member of the Pashto ethnic group, which the majority of the Afghan population belong to.

In a speech delivered at Washington's Brookings Institute for Research, Karzai said that Fahim "will be an agent of stability and unity for the Afghan people" and that "he will be a vice-president that can go to any province in the country and do what is expected of him." Karzai went on to say that in he sees in Fahim "A man I could depend upon during the tough times." Karzai justified placing Fahim in a position of power by saying that the veteran warriors who had fought against the Soviet occupation should be appointed to more senior positions in government.

With the announcement of General Mohamed Qasim Fahim – who is dubbed "the Bulldozer" for his role as commander of the Northern Alliance – defection from the opposition to Karzai's presidential ticket in the forthcoming Afghan elections due to take place in August, it is clear that there is a rift in the ranks of the Afghan opposition.

Mohamed Qasim Fahim was born in 1958, in a small village in the Panjshir Valley in Afghanistan. He received his primary and secondary school education in the Panjshir Valley, before completing his studies in Islamic Shariaa Law and Arabic at the Institute of Islamic Studies in Kabul in 1977. He then travelled to the border city of Peshawar in 1978 where he studied military science. When he returned to Afghanistan, Fahim joined Commander Ahmed Shah Massoud in the Panjshir Valley Following the collapse of the pro-Soviet regime in 1992 Fahim was appointed Chief of the Afghan State Information Agency [Intelligence Service otherwise known as KHAD] during the Islamic State of Afghanistan [1992 – 1996], under President Sibghatullah Mojaddedi, and his successor President Barhanuddin Rabbani.

Many of Fahim's critics say that despite being a military leader of an Islamist group and having strong ties to both the mujahedeen and Ahmed Shah Massoud, he has maintained an open-door policy with Moscow and the Communist Party of Tajikistan, and that he received his initial military training behind the scenes of KHAD under late President Mohammad Najibullah. A number of incidents have played an important role in the formation of Fahim's character. For example following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1978, Fahim became a refugee in Peshawar, yet only a year later Fahim returned to Panjshir where he [joined Ahmed Shah Massoud and] began his armed resistance against Soviet occupation.

Fahim is also a former warlord, and some have accused him of committing war crimes during the time he was a member of the military wing of Burhanuddin Rabbani's Jamiat-e Islami organization. During the Soviet occupation Jamiat-e Islamic took part in a series of assassinations that targeted key figures in Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hizb-e Islami organization.

Fahim is also regarded as one of the major leaders of the prominent armed Islamist groups that were involved in the Afghan civil war that took place between 1992 and 1996. This was the war between the Northern Alliance led by Tajik leader Ahmed Shah Massoud and the Taliban movement. Fahim is vehemently hated by the Taliban for killing hundreds of their members and leaders during their struggle to power following the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The accusations leveled against Fahim concern his role in this civil war, where he served as a commander of the Northern Alliance under Ahmed Shah Massoud. The Human Rights Watch organization issued a report in 2005 entitled "Blood-Stained Hands" which reports that Fahim was involved in the death of 800 Hazara Shiite Muslims in 1992 in Kabul.

On 13 September 2001, just four days after the assassination of Ahmed Shah Massoud at the hands of the Al Qaeda organization, Fahim was appointed Military Commander of the Northern Alliance. Fahim – along with other warlords- assisted the US forces in driving the Taliban out of Kabul. The US allowed him, and a number of other warlords, to keep their militias and the areas that were under their control. Indeed Fahim is still in control of military troops who are directly under his command and have pledged their allegiance to him, not the central [Afghan] government.

Fahim served as Minister of Defense in the Afghan Transitional Administration under President Karzai, before being removed from cabinet prior to the first presidential elections in the history of Afghanistan which took place on 8 October 2004. One of the reasons for this was the intense pressure Karzai was subjected to from various foreign organizations who viewed Fahim as a major obstacle to the disarmament process. This was because Fahim had refused to disband his militia which at this time was comprised of around 50 thousand troops. In addition to being a favorite of Moscow, Fahim is considered to be one of Iran's staunchest allies in Afghanistan. He believes that the massive amount of aid given to Afghanistan by Iran will remain forever engraved upon the memory of the country and he regards Iran as an important neighbor and strategic ally.

As is the case with many Afghan leaders, Fahim has been accused of having a hand in the manufacture and smuggling of narcotics in the northern region of Afghanistan, despite his repeated denials. These warlords are accused of spending the profit from the drug trade on arming their militias. Previously the US forces in Afghanistan had announced their intention of bringing General Fahim and a number of other Northern Alliance commanders to trial on charges of narcotic manufacture and smugglings. In fact, the US forces did not stop at merely issuing this threat, but took things to the next level by finalizing the legal procedures for taking Fahim to court. However this was merely a means of exerting pressure on Fahim to convince him to cooperate with President Karzai.

Regardless of the number of accusations made against Fahim, he has never been brought to trial. This is as a result of a law issued by the Afghan parliament in 2007 which provided a [legal] amnesty to former Afghan jihadist leaders, as well as the dropping of any charges of war crimes that may have been made against them This law has provoked angry responses from international human rights organization since it was enacted.

Fahim was one of the founders of the oppositional United National Front established to oppose the Karzai administration. Other members include former President Burhanuddin Rabbani, and a number of former ministers such as former Afghan Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr. Abdullah Abdullah.

Fahim's defection from the opposition party came amidst news of other Northern Alliance officials endorsing the incumbent president in the forthcoming presidential elections that are due to take place on 20 August. Karzai is widely expected to win a second 5-year term in what is only the second democratic presidential elections to be held in Afghanistan in the past 40 years. Winning this election will go along way in conferring a legitimacy upon President Karzai which he is currently lacking, this is due to the fact that the President was originally appointed by a Loya Jirga [Grand Assembly] following intense pressure from Washington on his behalf.

The US used Fahim and other warlords to overthrow the Taliban following the September 11 attacks in 2001. However the US made the mistake of allowing these warlords to keep their militias and the areas which they controlled. As months went by, these militias grew in strength to the extent that they began collecting taxes and duties that should rightfully have gone to the central government. These militias even began charging taxes on the opium trade which had begun to thrive once more in Afghanistan to the extent that Afghanistan is now the number one worldwide exporter of heroin.

Afghan sources in Kabul informed Asharq Al-Awsat that Fahim's endorsement of Karzai is an explicit breaking away from the oppositional ranks. Forty-four candidates have registered as independents in the second presidential elections, two of whom are women. Along with prominent Afghan economist and former Minister of Commerce, Hedayat Amin Arsala, Karzai's main rivals are Ashraf Ghani, the former Afghan Minister of Finance who has worked for the World Bank, and Dr. Abdullah Abdullah, former Afghan Minister of Foreign Affairs.

In a telephone interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Afghan Minister of Hajj Mohamed Siddiq Tashkiri revealed that the appointment of Fahim to the post of vice-president is compensation to the "Afghan mujahedeen" prior to the forthcoming election. Tashkiri added that the mujahedeen who had fought the Soviets for many years are spread all over Afghanistan and that their vote is important. Tashkiri also revealed to Asharq Al-Awsat that he personally would be voting for Fahim, the commander who fought against the Soviets for years. He added that Fahim is known among the Afghans as "Qasimi Fahim" the General who drove out the Taliban and Al Qaeda following the collapse of the fundamentalist regime in 2001. Tashkiri added that in the eyes of the Afghan people, Fahim was the "lion-cub of Panjshir" as he was the right-hand man of Ahmed Shah Massoud, the Commander of the Northern Alliance who is still known until today as the "Lion of Panjshir." Massoud was assassinated by Al Qaeda only two days prior to the September 11 attacks and pictures and images of him can be found throughout Afghan cities. Sheik Tashkiri informed Asharq Al-Awsat that "There is a lot of negative propaganda that has accompanied the rise of Fahim, but despite this he is much loved by the Tajik ethnic group."

Karzai has raised the concern of the international community by choosing Fahim as a running mate for one of the two Afghani vice-presidential positions. Karzai said "We will make mistakes just as we did in the past; however our objective is to serve the Afghan people." Karzai justified selecting Mohamed Qasim Fahim and Karim Khalil for the two vice-presidential positions by saying "This is for the sake of the Afghan people and their welfare."

The other candidate is the incumbent vice-president Karim Khalil, a Hazara Shiite; he has been Karzai's vice-president for the previous 7 years, is a former warlord, and one of the leaders of the Hazara Shiite political party, Hizb-e Wahdat. Khalil has also been accused of committing war crimes during the Afghan civil war, but he cooperated with the disarmament process following the collapse of the Taliban, and dismantled his militia. It is said that Fahim [has now] disarmed [in preparation for the elections] but he has been accused of storing weapons in Wadi Banshir, the former base of the Northern Alliance that fought against both the Soviets and the Taliban.

Fahim's nomination has not pleased the UN, as expressed by UN Special Representative in Afghanistan Kai Eide. According to a western diplomat close to the UN, "Eide regrets the current situation following Fahim's nomination to the vice-presidency." The diplomat also indicated that this reaction "reflects the feelings of the international community towards this nomination" and pointed out that this decision "may cause Karzai to lose the support of the international community and the Afghan people." The Norwegian diplomat Eide warned the Afghan president several times of the consequences of nominating Fahim. UN officials in Kabul who spoke on the condition of anonymity also expressed their "fears" with regards to Fahim's nomination to the vice-presidency.

Afghan MP Shukrya Barakzai, a legal and women's rights activist said that "this [nomination] gives the impression that Afghanistan is unable to stay away from its past, especially with regards to the warlords." She added "this makes it difficult to continue in the endeavor towards a progressive and democratic society, along with the protection of the rights of the people of Afghanistan." Barakzai also said that Fahim being incriminated in [war] crimes and the suppression of people's rights is another reason that the candidate should be disqualified.

Western observers describe Fahim as "ambitious" and a "trouble-maker." They warned that the power struggle between Karzai and Fahim may result in a "violent split in an already fragile government that is accused by the West of corruption."

In a statement commenting on remarks made by his opponents Fahim said that his goal is to sacrifice for the people of Afghanistan, something which was evident from his earlier cooperation with Karzai. Fahim added "I want to stress to you that my goal and my hope is a united Afghanistan, and my ambition is to create a state where law and legitimacy prevail."

Dr. Hani al-Sibai, an Egyptian Islamist and director of the Almaqreze Centre for Historical Studies in London that specializes in Afghan affairs informed Asharq Al-Awsat that "the Tajik General Fahim was the commander of the military wing of the group presided over by Barhanuddin Rabbani…it is no surprise that today two foes are allying. Afghanistan has a history of such alliances. In the past, Massoud allied with Hekmatyar, before they came into conflict, and then the Taliban came [top power] and everybody fled to the mountains. In the past, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar also allied with the communist Abdul-Rashid Dostum during the mujahedeen government."

Dr. al-Sibai informed Asharq Al-Awsat via telephone that "the US administration is unhappy with Fahim's nomination because he is – militarily and politically – stronger than their man Karzai. Fahim has a trained and armed militia ready to follow his commands." Al-Sibai also indicated that there are real fears for Afghanistan if President Karzai is assassinated. He said "There have previously been numerous attempts on Karzai's life by Al Qaeda, including an assassination attempt in Kabul in May 2008 only yards from his presidential mansion, and another in Kandahar. If an assassination attempt made against Karzai proves successful, then Fahim, the Afghan Bulldozer, would become the next president of Afghanistan, according to the constitution."

Dr. al-Sibai went on to say that "Fahim's history with the Pashto and the people of Afghanistan is a bloody one, when he was a military commander under Ahmed Shah Massoud Fahim participated in the assassination of the Hizb-e Islami party leaders during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He is also the bitter enemy of the Taliban after killing hundreds of its members and leaders. If appointed president, the Taliban will attack the Afghan governmental leadership in revenge." Dr. al-Sibai also informed Asharq Al-Awsat that "the Afghan people have not forgotten the massacres perpetuated against the Arab Afghans in Kabul, Jalalabad, Mazari Sharif, Namrouz and elsewhere by the Northern Alliance under the command of Fahim. Due to this several attempts have already been made on Fahim's life."

The game of [political] musical chairs that is currently taking place in Kabul is one that has been going on for decades, and today Afghanistan finds itself witnessing a strange and astonishing political alliance whose objective is to stabilize the country. However this alliance may result in further disorder and instability, the effect of which is beyond speculation, only the coming days will answer this question.


The  above is a bit disorganized - but some good bits in it ---- the assassination of Hekmatyars men - maybe true - but would almost certainly have in retaliation to Hekmatyars work to kill of genuine rivals of his - those whom could not fit into his Ghilzai orientated policies.

As for killing 'Afghan Arabs' - i.e.  allies of the Taliban - that is mark of honour - though if taken as prisoner - they were treated very well - like all prisoners.

7  General / General Discussion / Afghanistan's unloved cricketers on: May 15, 2009, 07:22:03 PM
Afghanistan's unloved cricketers

The young Afghan cricket team may have achieved major victories, but their countrymen still distrust them

The Guardian - UK
Reza Mohammadi
Friday 15 May 2009


When the Afghan cricket team returned to the country after its international victories, Afghans showed little evidence of joy. Many of them felt no emotion, and there were even some who brought up the team in conversation only to mock them. Only a few played music and danced the attan, and so welcomed the happy news for their country. Perhaps the many years of war and sorrow have made Afghans forget kindness and joy. Or maybe those years have made them view everything with suspicion and pessimism.

If you tried to get inside Afghan society, you'd discover some interesting reasons for this lack of enthusiasm. The first is that the players are not only all Pashtun but also come from the east of the country. In Afghanistan's tribal society, the team's success was interpreted as a sign of Pashtuns' special privileges in the social and political spheres. Afghans, who tend to perceive everything through racial and tribal filters, do not regard a team whose members belong to a single ethnicity as a team representing the nation.

A similar lack of enthusiasm was evident in last year's reception of Rohullah Nikpai, who won the country's first Olympic medal. Nikpai is a taekwondo fighter and is an ethnic Hazara. But few people apart from the Hazaras were happy about his success. Many Afghans expect sport teams – and all other aspects of society – to function like a coalition government, ensuring tribal, racial and regional balance. This expectation started with Karzai's administration, the foundations of which were based on such principles. The result has been that Afghanistan's sport teams have repeatedly been defeated in recent years.

But the second reason that the cricket team is viewed with suspicion has to do with the fact that most of the sportsmen have lived in Pakistani refugee camps. Afghans view the team's success as part of a Pakistani conspiracy, leading to an intensification of Pakistan's influence on Afghan culture and society. They argue, in particular, that Afghanistan's first-ever cricket federation was founded in 1995, in Pakistan.

Yet another reason for Afghan animosity towards the team is its link to Imran Khan, a former captain of the Pakistani cricket team. Suspicious Afghans believe Imran Khan to be the team's founder and main supporter. Imran Khan is from the Pashtun Niazi tribe, many members of which live in Afghanistan. He is someone who has repeatedly talked about the Pashtun issue, their lack of power in Pakistan and even the Taliban. According to the journalist Ahmed Rashid, during the Taliban era Imran Khan was in contact with the head of Pakistani intelligence, Hamid Gul. They also argue that his founding of the Movement for Justice party and his candidacy in the Pakistani presidential elections are evidence of his political ambitions. There has never been any proof of Imran Khan's direct or indirect role in the Afghan cricket team but the Afghans' suspicion increased when the team was seen training either in the city of Lahore or at Peshawar's Niazi sports club.

More suspicion was caused by the admission that some of the team members were born in Islamabad, while some said in interviews that they only listen to Pakistani songs. But most Pashtuns in both countries have never accepted the border and all major Pashtun tribes in Afghanistan have relatives in Pakistan. So, in a way, their having been brought up in Pakistan is irrelevant to their sense of loyalty.

But the team's supporters and Pashtuns who follow sport news disregard such tensions in their writing and focus mainly on the ban on playing cricket during the Taliban era. They view the team as a source of pride for Afghanistan and the cause of a change in the country's image in the world. I agree with them that the team's success has been a soothing balm for the wounded pride of all Afghans.

Be this as it may, cricket is not without history in Afghanistan. According to Roy Morgan's encyclopedia of world cricket, the British troops brought cricket to Kabul in 1839. The game was played there for a long time but never attracted Afghan players or audiences. A century and a half later, in 1995, the game returned to Afghanistan via Pakistan and in 2001 the Afghan team became a member of the International Cricket Council. The first Afghan game was played against a local team in Peshawar's gymkhana sport club. In 2003, the team became a member of the Asian Cricket Council and over the last two years it has had many remarkable victories. But still the Afghan capital has neither a cricket training ground nor a proper league. In contrast to cricket, there are plenty of organised and functioning football, volleyball and martial arts leagues operating in Kabul and provincial cities.

Despite all this, the young team is hoping to eventually win the Afghans' trust. Even if Afghans carry on refusing to watch them play or receive them with flowers upon their victorious return from tournaments, the least they can do is to acknowledge them as Afghanistan's national players and love them for it.

Translated by Nushin Arbabzadah
8  General / General Discussion / Pakistani Sources say 'US floats Hekmatyar-Karzai power sharing formula' on: May 13, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
LAHORE: Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, the former prime minister of Afghanistan and the chief of the Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan (HIA), once favoured by Washington and later declared a most wanted fugitive by the FBI, has recently been offered a power sharing deal by the Obama administration for the post-election set up in Kabul, as a part of the US exit strategy from Afghanistan.

Well-informed diplomatic circles in Islamabad say the power sharing deal was floated recently by US Special Envoy Richard Holbrooke during his Afghanistan visit. Holbrook reportedly asked President Karzai that following the failure of his efforts for a truce with the Taliban leadership, he should start communicating with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who carries a $25 million bounty together with the Taliban ameer Mullah Mohammad Umar. The diplomatic circles say the Obama administration has already re-established contacts with Hekmatyar’s close circles and have offered some ministries in the Kabul government to his party, but if he agrees to renounce militancy and join hands with Karzai before the upcoming presidential elections in Afghanistan.

The diplomatic sources said that a deputy of Richard Holbrooke and an emissary of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (believed to be his longtime lieutenant Daud Abidi, an Afghan-American based in California as well as a prominent businessman, social worker and a former representative of the HIA) also took place in recent weeks which is being described in the White House circles as a landmark move in the US’ stated aim of involving militant groups in ending the conflict in Afghanistan. At the same time, however, there are those who say the choice of Hekmatyar also indicates just how desperate the United States is in finding an escape route from the escalating crisis in Afghanistan.

For years, the decision makers in CIA have branded Hekmatyar an irreconcilable militant. The fact, however, is that his Hizb-e-Islami still enjoys standing in Afghanistan and literally controls the strategically crucial province of Kapisa. The Americans concede that Hekmatyar’s forces have emerged since last year as the most important component of anti-Western coalition resistance in the wear torn Afghanistan. While most of Taliban-led resistance is situated near the Pak-Afghan borders, insurgent forces loyal to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar hold complete command over Kapisa province’s Tagab valley, hardly 30 kilometers north of Kabul.

The HIA, founded by Hekmatyar, was one of the most effective mujahideen groups to fight the Soviet invasion during the 1980s. Pakistan always wanted him to run Afghanistan for Islamabad but he was never trusted by the fellow Pashtun militias and kept out of Kabul. Hekmatyar had fought his Afghan rivals mercilessly and hardly ever compromised. Isolated in the extreme, he went and stayed in Iran to survive, and returned from there in 2001 in time to, as he boasted to the BBC, “Help Osama bin Laden escape from Tora Bora after the US-led Allied Forces invaded Afghanistan”. As things stand, he himself is rumoured to be flitting between Kapisa and the trouble stricken North Waziristan tribal region in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) of Pakistan with some important contacts within the Pakistani establishment.

The Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan (Islamic Party of Afghanistan, or HIA), sidelined from Afghan politics since the fall of the mujahideen regime to the Taliban in the mid-1990s, had re-emerged last year as an aggressive militant group, claiming responsibility for many bloody attacks against the Allied and NATO Forces and the administration of President Hamid Karzai. Led by 61-year-old Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a charismatic engineer, former premier and mujahideen commander once favored by Washington—the HIA had even claimed responsibility for an attack on a military parade in Kabul from which President Hamid Karzai escaped unharmed.

Although Hamid Karzai may have serious reservations over the recently floated American power sharing formula, the diplomatic circles say he is under grave American pressure to seriously think over the proposal and take a decision as early as possible. These circles say the American power sharing offer indicates Hekmatyar clout in the Afghan politics, though his name has been largely absent from the Afghan scene over the last few years. However, the diplomatic circles say Karzai’s decision to choose Afghanistan’s worst warlord, General Faheem, as vice president for the coming elections could spoil any possible deal between Karzai and Hekmatyar?

These circles say it is difficult to imagine Hekmatyar letting his party cohabit with a government that has his old Tajik sworn enemy as vice president. The Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan, whose political wing has offices all over Afghanistan and keeps 40 seats in the Afghan parliament, has already repeated its resolve to replace Afghan President Hamid Karzai in the upcoming presidential elections. Hekmatyar’s close circles insist he has a great future in Afghan politics being the only credible Pashtun strongman untainted by al-Qaeda and possibly capable of taking on the Taliban as well.
9  General / General Discussion / Farsi Qawali on: May 11, 2009, 07:18:45 PM
Salam all,

Recently I have taken a liking to Farsi Qawali music.

In Hindustan - one of the ways which Islam spread - amongst the ordinary folk - was through Sufis - some of whom used music - a form called Qawali.  Here  are some examples, and please add your own favorites.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjDFr0s2Wns" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjDFr0s2Wns</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap82Qx60CKE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap82Qx60CKE</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnBZlXaZRHU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnBZlXaZRHU</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd2XIIUoAgA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd2XIIUoAgA</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtohsOEfK7g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtohsOEfK7g</a>

10  General / General Discussion / Qizilbash-Tajiks - and Hazaras on: May 07, 2009, 05:39:38 PM
Dear Gul Agha,

I do not know if you managed to catch a recent program on Noor TV of USA - in which Mr Madani interviewed a very leaned man and scholar from Chindawol - whom talked about the real face Daud Khan - and his plans to slaughter all Qizilbash using his Hazara allies. Hazara have always united with those forces whom were against the Kabulian - all through history.

Against Habibulah Kalakani, when Qizilbash were instrumental in the fall of Kabul  - in the fight against Massoud in which Massoud had many Qizilbash allies - in the fight against those whom wanted to remove the fascist Daud.

Has anyone her thought - what may have happened - had the powr hungry dog Daud not launched a coup de ta against the Parliamentary System - with a nominal head of state - Zahir Shah?  The real power was given to the prime minster - Musa Shafiq whom did many great things - one being the move to solve the water crisis with Iran and to drop the stupid Pukhtunistan issue with Pakistan - but Daud Khan ruined it all. He took over - under pretence of creating a republic - he made himself absolute ruler - far more powerful than Zahir Shah was as King..... in pursuit of power. That jerk did not even really care about Pakhunistan - it was stunt to attract power to himself.

Anyhow - do you know that guy whom Mr Madani interviewed ?

11  General / General Discussion / Insightful video about the attempts of Uzbek-Hazara-Ghilzai on: May 06, 2009, 12:03:39 PM
Watch this video - ignore the Hazara-Ghilzai given title and slanderous texts written on the screen - just listen - it is very insightful.

The Islamic Republic of Iran is not the friend of Tajiks. We should not be tricked into thinking that because they call themselves Iran - that they represent genuine Iran.  They are the enemies of genuine Iran.

Uzbekistan, Russian, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, USA, Iran, Britain all are our enemies... they have used Ghilzai, Uzbeks and Hazaras against us.

You guys must remember that Amir Abdur Rahman Khan was made Amir by Tajiks in Charikar - elected there by more than 200'000 Ghazis and their leaders in order to smash up the enemies of their land.

The historic border of Kabul centered Khurasan with Hindustan (known as the Durrand line) was recognized as official by the glorious Amir - only those whom disrespect the Khurasani identity of that land refuse to recognize it as the official border.

The Hazaras Khans were creating havok for Tajiks in the center of the country, as were the Uzbek in the northern parts of the country and as were the Ghilzai in the southern portions of the country. Amir Abdur Rahman Khan smashed the power of all these element with his forces, and ever since they have been ready to side with anyone from the outside to improve their situation.

Ghilzai using hundred masks constantly attempted to take power. These masks included Khalqi, Hezbi Islami, Taliban, Afghan Mellat....and perhaps many more.

VIDEO : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bksXJXcXnYc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bksXJXcXnYc</a>

12  General / Geopolitical Studies and News / Al Qaeda's Shadow Army commander outlines Afghan strategy - Khorasan on: May 04, 2009, 07:31:52 PM
Al Qaeda's Shadow Army commander outlines Afghan strategy


By Bill RoggioApril 13, 2009 1:27 AM

The new commander of al Qaeda's paramilitary forces that operate in Pakistan and Afghanistan laid out al Qaeda and the Taliban's strategy to defeat the Coalition and Afghan government.

Abdullah Sa'id, the commander of the Lashkar al Zil, or the Shadow Army, released a statement concerning the status of the fight in Afghanistan. The statement, which has been obtained by The Long War Journal, was issued by Al Fajr Media Center, an official outlet for al Qaeda propaganda, and published on the Islamic Al Fallujah Forum.

The Shadow Army is al Qaeda's elite paramilitary army [see LWJ report, Al Qaeda's paramilitary 'Shadow Army']. The unit has its roots in the 055 Brigade, which fought conventional battles against the Northern Alliance and US forces in Afghanistan.

The Taliban, al Qaeda, the Haqqani Network, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami, and a host of Pakistani jihadi terror groups have joined forces to battle both the Pakistani military in the Northwest Frontier Province and the NATO and Afghan forces in Afghanistan. The Shadow Army contains fighters from each of these terror groups, and trains in camps in the Northwest Frontier Province and the tribal areas.

Sa'id is a Libyan national, a senior US military intelligence official told The Long War Journal. He is thought to have formal military training; however this has not been confirmed. Many senior al Qaeda military commanders have served in their country's military.

Sa'id succeeded Khalid Habib as the leader of the Shadow Army. In October 2008, Habib was killed in a US Predator airstrike in a region in South Waziristan controlled by Pakistani Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud.

In the statement, Sa'id is identified as the leader of the Qaidat al-Jihad fi Khorasan, or the base of the jihad in the Khorasan.

The Khorasan is a region that encompasses large areas of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Iran. The Swat valley, where the Taliban have forced the government to impose sharia, is part of this region. Khorasan is considered by jihadis to be the place where they will inflict the first defeat against their enemies in the Muslim version of Armageddon. The final battle is to take place in the Levant - Israel, Syria, and Lebanon.

Mentions of the Khorasan have begun to increase in al Qaeda's propaganda. After al Qaeda's defeat in Iraq, the group began shifting its rhetoric from promoting Iraq as the central front in their jihad and have placed the focus on the Khorasan.

Sa'id lays out the al Qaeda/Taliban plan for victory in Afghanistan

In the lengthy statement, Sa'id lauded the Taliban and their improved tactics in fighting Western forces in Afghanistan. He claimed the Afghan government has lost the support of the people due to corruption and the inability to stop Coalition strikes that result in civilian deaths.

Said also claimed the US military has been weakened significantly due to the extended fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, and cites statistics about military suicides and the incidences of post traumatic stress disorder. He claimed US and Coalition forces have lost ground to the Taliban and are concentrated in major cities and along major roads.

Sa’id makes few distinctions between Taliban and al Qaeda operations in Afghanistan. He repeatedly calls Taliban leader Mullah Omar the Emir al Mumineen, or the Commander of the Faithful. This title has religious significance among jihadis; the Commander of the Faithful is designated the leader of their Islamist caliphate. Osama bin Laden is thought to have sworn allegiance to Omar.

The close relationship between the Taliban, al Qaeda, and other jihadi groups is made plain by Sa'id in his description of the strength of the Taliban. "t possesses significant regional cards, chiefly the Taliban Pakistan and the Al-Qaeda Organization, and probably more important cards in Central Asia, Chinese Eastern Turkistan, and other regions in Iran," he said.

Al Qaeda and the Taliban's strategy to defeat the West in Afghanistan is made clear. Sa'id, as the Shadow Army leader, would have first hand knowledge of the plan for victory. Sa'id's major points are:

    • Forces are to attack major provincial centers while simultaneously advancing on the capital of Kabul. Sa'id specifically mentions the Maidan-Wardak region just south of Kabul as being a pivotal area for staging attacks on the capital.

    • Interdict NATO's supply lines in Pakistan and force the Western countries to rely on Central Asian nations for logistical supply lines. Sa'id believes the Russians will threaten NATO's resupply effort and force Central Asian states from cooperating.

    • Leverage al Qaeda's knowledge gained in Iraq to train the Taliban for more sophisticated attacks. Al Qaeda has already "employed its military expertise in Iraq in to serve Taliban's project in Afghanistan and Pakistan, such roadside bombs which target the military convoys, and the suicide attacks which have never existed in Afghanistan before 11 September attack," according to Sa'id. He also said that al Qaeda has training camps in Northeastern Afghanistan, in Helmand province, and in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

    • Bleed the US and NATO allies through "organized guerilla warfare" as the Western countries face a financial crisis. "Taliban relied on patience, while the Americans can not tolerate long wars and the good tidings are promised to the patient people," he said. "[T]this type of war causes languor to the fortitude of any regular army and leads to its exhaustion and depletion over time even when the Americans join forces with the NATO."

    Sa'id quotes Osama bin Laden on how the financial crisis plus the extended wars have weakened America's resolve: "This is America today, staggering under the strikes and consequences of the mujahideen. There is a human loss, a political beat, and a financial breakdown. Even it begs small, as well as big countries. Its enemies are no longer afraid of it, and its friends are no longer respects it."

    • Continue to plan attacks against the West. Sa'id notes that almost all of al Qaeda's major attacks against the West were plotted in Afghanistan. "The overwhelming majority of the organization's main operations in Europe and the United States were planned in Afghanistan (the attack on the World Trade Centre's twin towers in New York, the destruction of the destroyer USS Cole in Aden, the bombing of the American Embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salam, the attack on American tourists in Bali, Indonesia, and the bombing of a Jewish synagogue in Jerba, Tunisia)." he said. "Al Qaeda organization did not succeed at all in mounting any major operation in the West from Iraq."

    • Take advantage of Afghanistan's porous borders to flood the country with foreign recruits, who will eventually "return to their countries and probably Europe and the West after undergoing military training and ideological mobilization."

    • Take advantage of civilian casualties caused by Coalition forces in Afghanistan to turn the population against the government and Western forces.

    • Take advantage of NATO and Afghan forces' focus on the main civilian centers and the lines of communication. The Taliban and al Qaeda will use the countryside to train, recruit, and launch attacks against enemy forces.

    • Capitalize on US airstrikes in Pakistan for recruitment as well as for creating rifts between the two governments.

    • Eschew negotiations with the Afghan government and the West. Sa'id is adamant that the recent reports of negotiations with the Taliban are attempts to split the Taliban and al Qaeda, and that no members of the senior leadership were involved.

    Sa'id is clear that Mullah Omar was unwilling to turn over bin Laden after the US demanded it in late 2001, and that there is no reason to break from al Qaeda now when the Taliban have the upper hand. "US and western sources talk about their readiness to accept the Taliban in the Afghan future political structure should it leave the Al Qaeda," he said. "However, these sources close the eyes to the fact that Mullah Mohammad Omar has lost his throne [ruling] upon his refusal to hand over one person who is Osama bin Laden. Thus, will Mullah Mohammad Omar agree to a condition which he refused when he used to rule and when the United States was at the top of its might, and accept it now while he is on the threshold of a victory over his enemies?"

    • Expand the jihad into neighboring countries. Sa'id discusses using the leverage gained in Afghanistan to affect the outcome in neighboring countries.

In the statement, Sa'id demonstrates al Qaeda's savvy in monitoring the foreign press and using the wealth of available information in its propaganda. Sa'id quotes from a host of Western media outlets.

Sa'id also takes advantage of the slew of statements made by senior US, NATO, and UN officials that the war in Afghanistan is unwinnable. "Who thinks one day that US Defense Secretary Robert Gates, would welcome negotiations with Taliban, and welcome its participations in the government?," he said. "And who would think one day the Canadians, British, German, even the United Nations would admit the impossibility of winning the war by arms, and its invitation to them all to opt for the political solution? And who would think one day that Taliban would refuse talks?"
13  General / General Discussion / Documentary on Massoud on: April 24, 2009, 05:53:31 AM


The famous Afghan leader, Ahmed Shah Massoud was born in Jangalak in the Panjshir in 1953. He was assassinated by two Tunisian assassins on September 9th 2001, ostensibly as part of the 9/11 process to draw the US into the Afghan war. This film looks at Massoud?s life through the eyes of his colleagues and friends and examines what made him the great leader that he was. Massoud?s personal meditation on Islam, history, civilization, literature, politics and military science, enabled him to draw from the writings of the 12th century philosopher, Al-Ghazali. This taught him to wage war without hatred, bitterness or revenge. He was Destiny?s gift to Afghanistan in its time of crisis. The film is 52 minutes long and has been shot on location in Afghanistan.
14  General / Tajik History, Culture and Civilization / New book on Ahmad Shah Massoud on: April 22, 2009, 09:27:26 AM

Marcela Grad, the author of a new book on the Afghan leader Ahmad Shah Massoud, will make her case at Washington University tomorrow for Massoud’s legacy, his importance for students and what lessons the world can learn from his life and death.

Grad’s book, “Massoud: An Intimate Portrait of the Legendary Afghan Leader,” crafts a multifaceted depiction of Massoud through stories drawn from interviews with Afghans and others around the world who knew him personally. Grad, who conducted more than 500 interviews over four years, said she chose this method because it helps her get at the complexity of Massoud’s character and story.

“I decided to choose storytelling, to collect stories from the Afghans and from people around the world who knew Massoud. I felt like the story of Massoud is so profound that only through stories could I get at it. I would be able to get into Massoud’s soul in a more real way,” she said. “I found out in the process that Massoud had produced a profound impact in many others.”

Grad, born in Argentina and a graduate of Webster University, did not learn of Massoud until after his assassination. Her interest in Massoud originates from the first time she ever saw his likeness in the French music video “Ponfilly.”

“I saw this man’s eyes and I knew that I had to do something about this man,” Grad said.

While Massoud, a middle-class ethnic Tajik who abandoned his studies in engineering and architecture to lead successful military campaigns against the Soviets and the Taliban, is not very well known in the United States, Grad stressed that his story is universal.

“The qualities of Massoud and the Afghans are something that humanity can benefit from. This man was incredibly open-minded and incredibly interested in the West and in everything. This is a man that, in 23 years of war, never lost tranquility. This is a man that read poetry to his people. There are so many things about him and his behavior and his life that I feel can benefit humanity,” she said.

A highly educated man who enjoyed poetry and also had close ties with people in the West, Massoud’s personal charisma and tolerant politics attracted a popular following in Afghanistan, where the government now lists him as a national hero.

Grad’s portrait of Massoud is of a renaissance man who embodies many of the dualities shaping the world today—he was a patriot and nationalist who maintained warm ties with the West; a man steeped in Islamic mysticism and literature who advocated women’s rights; and a skilled military commander who spent his last night alive discussing poetry with Massoud Khalili, the son of Afghanistan’s foremost poet.

Despite his popularity, or its being perceived as a threat, Massoud was assassinated by suicide bombers on Sept. 9, 2001, two days before the 9/11 terror attacks. Just before his death, he was in France warning Western governments about the threat posed by al-Qaeda.

“Massoud and the Afghans were fighting intolerance long before us. They fought for preserving their traditions. [The Soviets] were invading their country. This war was going on much before the 11th of September,” Grad said.

While the focus of her book is Massoud, Grad also said she wants to help educate the West about Afghanistan.

“I really emphasize the idea of listening [to the Afghans]. I listened for four years. One thing that called my attention was the great subtlety and poetry of their story. I interviewed a commander who fought for years with Massoud. He never had a childhood or adolescence; he had to fight for his country from very early on,” she said. “My impression, coming from South America, was that I did not see this man destroyed. On the contrary: His inner self was intact. He suffered a lot. There is something that is in these people that is like a rock—they’re very strong. This person was not destroyed internally.”

“I think this book is not just for Westerners,” she added. “It’s also for people in the East. Massoud represents something in this search for answers—what Islam really is, how to pursue peace in the world.”

While she is trying to spread Massoud’s message as far as she can, Grad particularly hopes to reach students, for whom his message, she feels, is especially relevant.

“I really want to reach people at Wash. U., students particularly. This perspective of Massoud is really relevant for the youth,” Grad said. “I’m really looking forward to the [students’] questions. I’m hoping that they understand that I had an experience with [the Afghans]. I’m talking as a Western woman who had an experience with them, and talked to them and listened to them. Their message and their struggle and their story [are] something that inspired me and that I hope will inspire others.”

Grad, who sees Massoud as a symbolic figure of humanity, believes he will be remembered for centuries to come.

“He’s not a man for one day, or for one decade. He transcends religion, he transcends politics. It’s a universal story. It reaches people of all traditions.”

Grad will be speaking tomorrow at 12 p.m. in the Danforth University Center.
15  General / General Discussion / !!! Paki Media story : Afghan Tajiks take control of Buner !!! on: April 22, 2009, 09:04:19 AM
Afghan Tajiks take control of Buner


Wednesday, April 22, 2009

By Rauf Klasra

ISLAMABAD: The frightened people of Buner, which has now fallen into the hands of the Taliban, have given horrible accounts of their ordeal, saying they were driven out of their homes at gunpoint by Afghan Tajiks.

ìLet the whole Pakistan know that we have been invaded by the Afghan Tajiks who have come from the other side of the border. They are not the local Taliban the media has wrongly reported,î said an elderly man who, along with his wife and son, fled to Islamabad after his house was occupied and his marble factory was taken over.

These Afghan Tajiks are said to be using interpreters to communicate with the local Pakhtoons as they do not understand Pashtu. The families, who have escaped from Buner and its adjoining areas to save their lives, told The News that the Tajiks were looting and plundering their assets and properties. “They are occupying our businesses and destroying our homes,” the man said.

“For God sake, why don’t you people listen to our cries as we have been invaded by the Afghan Tajiks, not Pakistanis. Our families and honour are in danger,” said another man who too has fled to Islamabad along with his family. He wept in front of this correspondent while narrating his sad story of how he was driven out of his home at gunpoint.

He fled to Islamabad along with four other families after his factory and four petrol pumps of his friends were captured by the Afghan Taliban, where they have set up their camps. “I can swear on Holy Quran that those who have captured our village are Afghan nationals. You people sitting in Islamabad cannot imagine what sort of hell they have unleashed on us after advancing from Swat to our areas,” he said, sobbing. The details of these families are being kept secret for security reasons, as they have left their relatives back in Buner.

The man said as the people of Buner heard about the arrival of the Taliban from Swat, they formed a Lashkar to fight them. But, he lamented, the local police and law enforcement agencies facilitated them to capture the area.

“I am a local Pathan and I know who is a local and who is a foreigner. Our lands have been occupied by the Afghan Tajiks and no one is helping us to fight them. Rather, the Pakistani media and politicians are backing those who have invaded us,” he claimed.

“I have just received a phone call from my domestic servant that my house has been taken over by these Afghan Tajiks and they have destroyed everything there,” he further said. He said he was targeted because he was part of the Jirga that had held talks with the Tajik invaders. “I knew they will kill me. I lifted my elderly mother in my arms and crossed the mountains along with other family members and reached a nearby road and hired a taxi to reach Islamabad. I cannot sleep as the families of my brothers and sisters are still trapped in the village.”

“They are not Muslims at all who have occupied our lands. They are just ruthless people who have been given a free hand to rule over us and now they are playing with our lives and properties while the media, politicians and even the Army are watching silently,” he said.

“Let me warn you, if you do not stand up against these Afghan Tajiks, the people of Islamabad will soon become their target.”


This is such a chessy 5th grade creative writing homework of the ISI propaganda mill.   These same bastards were constantly writing loads of shit against Tajiks in Afghanistan - along with their Hekmatyari allies.  Many ignorant peopl still believe the sit that these people and their equally ruthless liar allies spread against Massoud.   Many of the Taliban captured by Massoud - thought they were  fighting against Russians !

What should we do guys and gals ?

Start celebrating ?  :D

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