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16  General / General Discussion / Two Rokhshanas and Khar Khalqis on: June 07, 2009, 05:18:15 PM
Hey guys,

I could not resist this:

Classic From Kabul

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drvL_xINkog" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drvL_xINkog</a>


Epic From Peshawar

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljy3EXtUehE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljy3EXtUehE</a>

LOL at 2:10. 


It is no wonder that the MULE & KHAR KHALQIS were pissed off and wanted to destroy the Persianate culture of the country - and establish a Pashtunist Mule Stalinist State.

Here they are celebrating their tribalism - after slaughtering 24000 Heratis and countless other in their reign of savagery......they later returned with beards along with Taliban to repeat their tribal crimes - this time not with RUBBOLS - but with KALDAR and DOLLARS.

Look at these savages - they hide behind rhetoric of Marxism and Lenninism and and evolution of man from primitive neanderthal to modern man yet these running dog MULE BREEDERS considered this acceptable:


A video of the gypsy turks whom adopted Pashtu language and attempted to create a

Pashtunist Mule Stalinist State.



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6JcdRwH5Hs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6JcdRwH5Hs</a>

Led by Tribalist TARAKI who refused to speak any Persian- and later killed in the Pukhtun Khar way by his fellow fascist and supposed adopted son Amin .
17  General / General Discussion / Re: Karmalist site Esalat promoting Pashtunist filth Puta Khazana on: June 05, 2009, 01:19:15 PM
What is shocking is that this 'Roshankfekr' site is promoting it.

It is equivalent to some Marxist website in the west giving promotion to the works of Adol Hitler - Mein Kampf.

The credibility of the Eslat Karmalist site is none whatsoever.
18  General / General Discussion / Karmalist site Esalat promoting Pashtunist filth Puta Khazana on: June 05, 2009, 01:13:28 PM
Dorood guys and gals,

I was shocked to find that on the site of Esalat to find the active promotion of the PUTA KHAZANA and other PASHTUNIST filth.  Filth created in the Nadir and Zahir Shah era - the rulers and era which these so called communists hated !

The proclaims to be be a site dedicated to the thoughts of Babrak Karmal - the leader of the Parcham wing of the Hezbi Democratic e Khalqi Afghanistan.

http://www.esalat.org/

http://www.esalat.org/images/pa%20patta%20khazana%20ke.htm

Many educated Tajiks were prominent in Parcham followers of Karmal - and were utterly opposed to such tribalism - but now in their name - Puta Khazana is promoted.

These scumbag tribalists hide behind anything - and have no shame at all in promoting their filthy Pashtun domination propaganda. 
19  General / General Discussion / Afghanistan to host Reza Deghati photo show on Ahmad Shah massoud on: May 18, 2009, 09:17:01 AM
Afghanistan to host Reza Deghati photo show
Tehran Times Art Desk

TEHRAN -- Photos by the veteran Iranian photojournalist Reza Deghati on Ahmad Shah Massoud will go on display in Afghanistan.

He will showcase a selection of photos he has taken over the past 30 years of Afghan people during an exhibition at the Panjsher Valley beginning May 22.

Known as the Lion of Panjsher, Ahmad Shah Massoud was one of the most popular of the anti-Soviet resistance leaders. He was the target of a successful suicide attack in Afghanistan on September 9, 2001. Born in Tabriz in 1952, Deghati began his career at 14. He later studied architecture at the University of Tehran.

Between 1978 and 1979, the Islamic Revolution shifted his focus from the countryside, and he covered the event for Agence France-Presse (AFP).

His work for AFP attracted the attention of Newsweek, for whom he became a correspondent in Iran from 1978 to 1981. He then became a Middle East correspondent for Time from 1983 to 1988. From 1989 to 1990, he served as a consultant to the United Nations humanitarian program in Afghanistan.

In 2005, Reza was honored with the title of “Chevalier de l’Ordre du Mérite” by President of France, Jacques Chirac. He also received the 2006 Missouri Honor Medal of the world’s first school of journalism.

He is also the president of Aina, an NGO that promotes the development of independent media in Afghanistan.

The War Memorial Museum in Caen, France hosted a selection of photos previously published in his book “War and Peace” in February 2009.

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No body should interpret this as Akhondi Shaitan Iran being allies of A.S.Massoud......he was just an Iranian born - non government free lance photographer... whom was recognized by Chirac for his work - and not some ministry of the empire of QOM.


20  General / General Discussion / The Afghan Bulldozer on: May 18, 2009, 09:08:53 AM
The Afghan Bulldozer

18/05/2009

By Mohammed Al Shafey

London, Asharq Al-Awsat - "Yesterday's foes are today's friends and perhaps tomorrow's enemies. It all depends upon [one's] interests." This statement has been used time and time again to the course of Afghan politics from Mujahedeen's wars prior to the rise of the Taliban in 1996, and even following the collapse of this extremist movement's regime in late 2001.

Today this statement can be applied to what is happening between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and former warlord Mohamed Qasim Fahim, whom Karzai announced that he wished to appoint as vice-President. This is an attempt by Karzai to strengthen his position by allying with leaders who enjoy popularity and influence in Afghanistan, and control militias, even if they are former warlords, and even if some of them, like Fahim, are considered to be major oppositional figure to Karzai having fought alongside Ahmed Shah Massoud.

In spite of the international criticism faced by Karzai for choosing Fahim to [stand] for the post of vice-president, Karzai defended his choice and asserted that the former warlord who has been accused of committing [war] crimes knows how to unite the country, especially since he is a member of the Tajik ethnic group, which is the second largest ethnic group in the country. President Karzai himself is a member of the Pashto ethnic group, which the majority of the Afghan population belong to.

In a speech delivered at Washington's Brookings Institute for Research, Karzai said that Fahim "will be an agent of stability and unity for the Afghan people" and that "he will be a vice-president that can go to any province in the country and do what is expected of him." Karzai went on to say that in he sees in Fahim "A man I could depend upon during the tough times." Karzai justified placing Fahim in a position of power by saying that the veteran warriors who had fought against the Soviet occupation should be appointed to more senior positions in government.

With the announcement of General Mohamed Qasim Fahim – who is dubbed "the Bulldozer" for his role as commander of the Northern Alliance – defection from the opposition to Karzai's presidential ticket in the forthcoming Afghan elections due to take place in August, it is clear that there is a rift in the ranks of the Afghan opposition.

Mohamed Qasim Fahim was born in 1958, in a small village in the Panjshir Valley in Afghanistan. He received his primary and secondary school education in the Panjshir Valley, before completing his studies in Islamic Shariaa Law and Arabic at the Institute of Islamic Studies in Kabul in 1977. He then travelled to the border city of Peshawar in 1978 where he studied military science. When he returned to Afghanistan, Fahim joined Commander Ahmed Shah Massoud in the Panjshir Valley Following the collapse of the pro-Soviet regime in 1992 Fahim was appointed Chief of the Afghan State Information Agency [Intelligence Service otherwise known as KHAD] during the Islamic State of Afghanistan [1992 – 1996], under President Sibghatullah Mojaddedi, and his successor President Barhanuddin Rabbani.

Many of Fahim's critics say that despite being a military leader of an Islamist group and having strong ties to both the mujahedeen and Ahmed Shah Massoud, he has maintained an open-door policy with Moscow and the Communist Party of Tajikistan, and that he received his initial military training behind the scenes of KHAD under late President Mohammad Najibullah. A number of incidents have played an important role in the formation of Fahim's character. For example following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1978, Fahim became a refugee in Peshawar, yet only a year later Fahim returned to Panjshir where he [joined Ahmed Shah Massoud and] began his armed resistance against Soviet occupation.

Fahim is also a former warlord, and some have accused him of committing war crimes during the time he was a member of the military wing of Burhanuddin Rabbani's Jamiat-e Islami organization. During the Soviet occupation Jamiat-e Islamic took part in a series of assassinations that targeted key figures in Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hizb-e Islami organization.

Fahim is also regarded as one of the major leaders of the prominent armed Islamist groups that were involved in the Afghan civil war that took place between 1992 and 1996. This was the war between the Northern Alliance led by Tajik leader Ahmed Shah Massoud and the Taliban movement. Fahim is vehemently hated by the Taliban for killing hundreds of their members and leaders during their struggle to power following the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The accusations leveled against Fahim concern his role in this civil war, where he served as a commander of the Northern Alliance under Ahmed Shah Massoud. The Human Rights Watch organization issued a report in 2005 entitled "Blood-Stained Hands" which reports that Fahim was involved in the death of 800 Hazara Shiite Muslims in 1992 in Kabul.

On 13 September 2001, just four days after the assassination of Ahmed Shah Massoud at the hands of the Al Qaeda organization, Fahim was appointed Military Commander of the Northern Alliance. Fahim – along with other warlords- assisted the US forces in driving the Taliban out of Kabul. The US allowed him, and a number of other warlords, to keep their militias and the areas that were under their control. Indeed Fahim is still in control of military troops who are directly under his command and have pledged their allegiance to him, not the central [Afghan] government.

Fahim served as Minister of Defense in the Afghan Transitional Administration under President Karzai, before being removed from cabinet prior to the first presidential elections in the history of Afghanistan which took place on 8 October 2004. One of the reasons for this was the intense pressure Karzai was subjected to from various foreign organizations who viewed Fahim as a major obstacle to the disarmament process. This was because Fahim had refused to disband his militia which at this time was comprised of around 50 thousand troops. In addition to being a favorite of Moscow, Fahim is considered to be one of Iran's staunchest allies in Afghanistan. He believes that the massive amount of aid given to Afghanistan by Iran will remain forever engraved upon the memory of the country and he regards Iran as an important neighbor and strategic ally.

As is the case with many Afghan leaders, Fahim has been accused of having a hand in the manufacture and smuggling of narcotics in the northern region of Afghanistan, despite his repeated denials. These warlords are accused of spending the profit from the drug trade on arming their militias. Previously the US forces in Afghanistan had announced their intention of bringing General Fahim and a number of other Northern Alliance commanders to trial on charges of narcotic manufacture and smugglings. In fact, the US forces did not stop at merely issuing this threat, but took things to the next level by finalizing the legal procedures for taking Fahim to court. However this was merely a means of exerting pressure on Fahim to convince him to cooperate with President Karzai.

Regardless of the number of accusations made against Fahim, he has never been brought to trial. This is as a result of a law issued by the Afghan parliament in 2007 which provided a [legal] amnesty to former Afghan jihadist leaders, as well as the dropping of any charges of war crimes that may have been made against them This law has provoked angry responses from international human rights organization since it was enacted.

Fahim was one of the founders of the oppositional United National Front established to oppose the Karzai administration. Other members include former President Burhanuddin Rabbani, and a number of former ministers such as former Afghan Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr. Abdullah Abdullah.

Fahim's defection from the opposition party came amidst news of other Northern Alliance officials endorsing the incumbent president in the forthcoming presidential elections that are due to take place on 20 August. Karzai is widely expected to win a second 5-year term in what is only the second democratic presidential elections to be held in Afghanistan in the past 40 years. Winning this election will go along way in conferring a legitimacy upon President Karzai which he is currently lacking, this is due to the fact that the President was originally appointed by a Loya Jirga [Grand Assembly] following intense pressure from Washington on his behalf.

The US used Fahim and other warlords to overthrow the Taliban following the September 11 attacks in 2001. However the US made the mistake of allowing these warlords to keep their militias and the areas which they controlled. As months went by, these militias grew in strength to the extent that they began collecting taxes and duties that should rightfully have gone to the central government. These militias even began charging taxes on the opium trade which had begun to thrive once more in Afghanistan to the extent that Afghanistan is now the number one worldwide exporter of heroin.

Afghan sources in Kabul informed Asharq Al-Awsat that Fahim's endorsement of Karzai is an explicit breaking away from the oppositional ranks. Forty-four candidates have registered as independents in the second presidential elections, two of whom are women. Along with prominent Afghan economist and former Minister of Commerce, Hedayat Amin Arsala, Karzai's main rivals are Ashraf Ghani, the former Afghan Minister of Finance who has worked for the World Bank, and Dr. Abdullah Abdullah, former Afghan Minister of Foreign Affairs.

In a telephone interview with Asharq Al-Awsat, Afghan Minister of Hajj Mohamed Siddiq Tashkiri revealed that the appointment of Fahim to the post of vice-president is compensation to the "Afghan mujahedeen" prior to the forthcoming election. Tashkiri added that the mujahedeen who had fought the Soviets for many years are spread all over Afghanistan and that their vote is important. Tashkiri also revealed to Asharq Al-Awsat that he personally would be voting for Fahim, the commander who fought against the Soviets for years. He added that Fahim is known among the Afghans as "Qasimi Fahim" the General who drove out the Taliban and Al Qaeda following the collapse of the fundamentalist regime in 2001. Tashkiri added that in the eyes of the Afghan people, Fahim was the "lion-cub of Panjshir" as he was the right-hand man of Ahmed Shah Massoud, the Commander of the Northern Alliance who is still known until today as the "Lion of Panjshir." Massoud was assassinated by Al Qaeda only two days prior to the September 11 attacks and pictures and images of him can be found throughout Afghan cities. Sheik Tashkiri informed Asharq Al-Awsat that "There is a lot of negative propaganda that has accompanied the rise of Fahim, but despite this he is much loved by the Tajik ethnic group."

Karzai has raised the concern of the international community by choosing Fahim as a running mate for one of the two Afghani vice-presidential positions. Karzai said "We will make mistakes just as we did in the past; however our objective is to serve the Afghan people." Karzai justified selecting Mohamed Qasim Fahim and Karim Khalil for the two vice-presidential positions by saying "This is for the sake of the Afghan people and their welfare."

The other candidate is the incumbent vice-president Karim Khalil, a Hazara Shiite; he has been Karzai's vice-president for the previous 7 years, is a former warlord, and one of the leaders of the Hazara Shiite political party, Hizb-e Wahdat. Khalil has also been accused of committing war crimes during the Afghan civil war, but he cooperated with the disarmament process following the collapse of the Taliban, and dismantled his militia. It is said that Fahim [has now] disarmed [in preparation for the elections] but he has been accused of storing weapons in Wadi Banshir, the former base of the Northern Alliance that fought against both the Soviets and the Taliban.

Fahim's nomination has not pleased the UN, as expressed by UN Special Representative in Afghanistan Kai Eide. According to a western diplomat close to the UN, "Eide regrets the current situation following Fahim's nomination to the vice-presidency." The diplomat also indicated that this reaction "reflects the feelings of the international community towards this nomination" and pointed out that this decision "may cause Karzai to lose the support of the international community and the Afghan people." The Norwegian diplomat Eide warned the Afghan president several times of the consequences of nominating Fahim. UN officials in Kabul who spoke on the condition of anonymity also expressed their "fears" with regards to Fahim's nomination to the vice-presidency.

Afghan MP Shukrya Barakzai, a legal and women's rights activist said that "this [nomination] gives the impression that Afghanistan is unable to stay away from its past, especially with regards to the warlords." She added "this makes it difficult to continue in the endeavor towards a progressive and democratic society, along with the protection of the rights of the people of Afghanistan." Barakzai also said that Fahim being incriminated in [war] crimes and the suppression of people's rights is another reason that the candidate should be disqualified.

Western observers describe Fahim as "ambitious" and a "trouble-maker." They warned that the power struggle between Karzai and Fahim may result in a "violent split in an already fragile government that is accused by the West of corruption."

In a statement commenting on remarks made by his opponents Fahim said that his goal is to sacrifice for the people of Afghanistan, something which was evident from his earlier cooperation with Karzai. Fahim added "I want to stress to you that my goal and my hope is a united Afghanistan, and my ambition is to create a state where law and legitimacy prevail."

Dr. Hani al-Sibai, an Egyptian Islamist and director of the Almaqreze Centre for Historical Studies in London that specializes in Afghan affairs informed Asharq Al-Awsat that "the Tajik General Fahim was the commander of the military wing of the group presided over by Barhanuddin Rabbani…it is no surprise that today two foes are allying. Afghanistan has a history of such alliances. In the past, Massoud allied with Hekmatyar, before they came into conflict, and then the Taliban came [top power] and everybody fled to the mountains. In the past, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar also allied with the communist Abdul-Rashid Dostum during the mujahedeen government."

Dr. al-Sibai informed Asharq Al-Awsat via telephone that "the US administration is unhappy with Fahim's nomination because he is – militarily and politically – stronger than their man Karzai. Fahim has a trained and armed militia ready to follow his commands." Al-Sibai also indicated that there are real fears for Afghanistan if President Karzai is assassinated. He said "There have previously been numerous attempts on Karzai's life by Al Qaeda, including an assassination attempt in Kabul in May 2008 only yards from his presidential mansion, and another in Kandahar. If an assassination attempt made against Karzai proves successful, then Fahim, the Afghan Bulldozer, would become the next president of Afghanistan, according to the constitution."

Dr. al-Sibai went on to say that "Fahim's history with the Pashto and the people of Afghanistan is a bloody one, when he was a military commander under Ahmed Shah Massoud Fahim participated in the assassination of the Hizb-e Islami party leaders during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He is also the bitter enemy of the Taliban after killing hundreds of its members and leaders. If appointed president, the Taliban will attack the Afghan governmental leadership in revenge." Dr. al-Sibai also informed Asharq Al-Awsat that "the Afghan people have not forgotten the massacres perpetuated against the Arab Afghans in Kabul, Jalalabad, Mazari Sharif, Namrouz and elsewhere by the Northern Alliance under the command of Fahim. Due to this several attempts have already been made on Fahim's life."

The game of [political] musical chairs that is currently taking place in Kabul is one that has been going on for decades, and today Afghanistan finds itself witnessing a strange and astonishing political alliance whose objective is to stabilize the country. However this alliance may result in further disorder and instability, the effect of which is beyond speculation, only the coming days will answer this question.

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The  above is a bit disorganized - but some good bits in it ---- the assassination of Hekmatyars men - maybe true - but would almost certainly have in retaliation to Hekmatyars work to kill of genuine rivals of his - those whom could not fit into his Ghilzai orientated policies.

As for killing 'Afghan Arabs' - i.e.  allies of the Taliban - that is mark of honour - though if taken as prisoner - they were treated very well - like all prisoners.

21  General / General Discussion / Re: My Respectful Critique of the Khorasanni Movement on: May 16, 2009, 09:29:19 AM
CURRENT IRAN =  EMPIRE OF QOM and sworn enemy of TAJIKS. They are trash enemies whom work with and are the active enemies of Tajiks.  The empire of QOM represents a certain kind of Shiaism - dominated by a certain group - an enemy of Tajik Shias as well as other Tajiks.

The fact that they may want to link up to China is no proof of some special affinity to Tajiks - it is what any country would do if they were located where the current Iran is. It is not something significant in terms of a special relationship between Iran and Tajiks.
 
Their is no brotherhood amongst between Iran and Tajiks. Those whom think - there is - are either naive  and end up being disappointed - or have assume they have commonality die a shared Shia faith - but even that is naive - as is shown by the record.

Gul Agha - stop your propaganda that Tajiks in Iran were not discriminated against - an that it was only Afghans/Pashtuns ! lol That is so hollow and untrue - and it reveals your real ideas too much. 
22  General / General Discussion / Re: My Respectful Critique of the Khorasanni Movement on: May 16, 2009, 09:20:09 AM
Dear Amir al Ghaznavi,

Tajikam believes in freedom of speech and anyone from any background can participate in this forum.

Afghanistan is a failed concept and there is no way in bringing this dead concept alive again. not always does Unity help a region become stable but disintegration has been proven in numerous regions to bring peace and stability. our people are frustrated with Pashtuns and the ground reality is that non-Pashtuns cannot get along with Pashtuns. This does not mean we hate Pashtuns but it means we cannot co-exist with them peacefully. Partition or disintegration is an alternative we cannot run away from because Afghanistan is running out of other alternatives.

separating the south and the north will bring us closer and who knows maybe in a century we will unite again but unity right now is impossible. not every Pashtun is like you, most Pashtuns would right now label you as a Tajik wannabe for saying these things and we cannot change our attitude and agenda because of a small minority within the Pashtun masses who are speaking out against Pan Pashtunism.

Khorasan is not a fantasy. Afghanistan is already separated into two defacto states (the stable north and the radical south). Pakistan is also heading towards disintegration and Ahmad Rashid was predicted that itmight happen very soon maybe in a few years. Once a Pashtunistan is created out of NWFP the southern regions of Afghanistan that are controlled by the Taliban will join this Pashtunistan and this will cause Khorasan's independence.

most non-Pashtuns are Persian-speakers and they belong to the Persian civilization. What matters it that the majority in Khorasan will be Persians,Tajiks(including Aimaqs) and Hazaras, and differences between these two ethnicities is very little. the Turks, Nuristanis, Pashayis do not have the capabilities to stand against the Tajiks or the Persian-speakers in an independent Khorasan they will have no choise but to accept this country and in return they will be given rights. Uzbeks are unable to unite with Uzbekistan because Jowsjan and Faryab share a border with Turkmenistan not Uzbekistan.

Tajikistanis have not lost anything. Their script is taught in schools and now it is mandatory to study the Persian script from 2nd grade-11th grade. Tajikistanis are proud of their culture and heritage and the center for Persian nationalism right now is Tajikistan.

Iranians are our brothers and we will have close relations with them. There is no reason for them to be against us lol. If Iran was against another Persian state they would have been hostile towards Tajikistan but the truth is that Iran is pouring money in Tajikistan and is helping Tajikistan's economy and social issues.

Iran is a shia state but this does not mean they are against Sunnis. There are more Persian sunnis in Iran than Baluchi Sunnis and the Persian Sunnis in Iran are free and they are happy about the government. Religion is not the only facor that is thought of in Iran's policy making. There are as much Nationalists in Iran's current government as Akhonds and most of the cadres are pro Persian and even the president of Iran and some of his ministers were  former Pan-Iranists. Iraqi-Kurdistan is a sunni region but Iran is helping them become autonomous and independent. A secular republic of Khorasan (Sunnite and Shiite ideologies will be nonexistent in the government) will serve as a bridge for Iran to connect itself with China. anyone that disagrees with me and thinks the current administration in Iran is more sympathetic towards Shias instead of Persians then this only shows they lack info. Mazar e Sharif, a Tajik sunni city, is flourishing because of Iranian investors and millions have been given to Balkh's government to start cultural programs in Balkh and to revive the true identity of Balkh which is Persian. just a month ago the Iranian government built a monument for ferdowsi in a busy intersection and they named it " Maidan e Ferdowsi" in Mazar city and a few blocks eastward they built a big library and they named it "Ketab khaneh Ferdowsi". Iran has also donated thousands of books for Persian cities across Afghanistan. for Iran right now Persian is much more important than Shia and anyone who propagates that Iran's policy towards Tajiks is a negative one then they might still think Rafsanjaani Hazara-turkmen is in power.



Current Iran backed Wahdati Wahshis and Dostum to try to take Balkh - but were prevented by Ustad Atta - and if they are giving some money to him ( whilst giving hundreds of millions to fascist gang around Karzai)  - along side the vast amounts he makes from the border trade - do not mean that suddenly Iran is a friend of Tajiks. They have only slightly let up on their Hazara card after realizing how futile is was to attempt to spread militant Shiaism to its east - but to its west - in Iraq - it has been devastating that land. In Iraqi Kurdistan - they nominally back secularists - but those secular  Kurds are minor when practically the whole government is run by Shia people they backed.

In Herat - working with Afghan Mellatis - Iran is working against Sunni Persians - Karzi is given millions by Iran - until very recently a Hazara Shia was governor - at the behest of IRAN  !   They have been giving land to Hazaras and turning it into a client province of their own.... with western backing. But they will pay for it - as will their running dog Hazara clients and other Akhundophiles - the real people of Herat will massacre them.

The recent killings in Farah were of Tajiks - Sunni Persians - with Afghan interior ministry involvement - part of the same anti SunniPersian movement.

The name of Iran is a sheep skin over a wolf militant rabid Shiasm - representing a continuation of Turkic Safawid power.

Ahhangar
23  General / General Discussion / Afghanistan's unloved cricketers on: May 15, 2009, 07:22:03 PM
Afghanistan's unloved cricketers

The young Afghan cricket team may have achieved major victories, but their countrymen still distrust them

The Guardian - UK
Reza Mohammadi
Friday 15 May 2009

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/15/afghanistan-cricket-team-pakistan

When the Afghan cricket team returned to the country after its international victories, Afghans showed little evidence of joy. Many of them felt no emotion, and there were even some who brought up the team in conversation only to mock them. Only a few played music and danced the attan, and so welcomed the happy news for their country. Perhaps the many years of war and sorrow have made Afghans forget kindness and joy. Or maybe those years have made them view everything with suspicion and pessimism.

If you tried to get inside Afghan society, you'd discover some interesting reasons for this lack of enthusiasm. The first is that the players are not only all Pashtun but also come from the east of the country. In Afghanistan's tribal society, the team's success was interpreted as a sign of Pashtuns' special privileges in the social and political spheres. Afghans, who tend to perceive everything through racial and tribal filters, do not regard a team whose members belong to a single ethnicity as a team representing the nation.

A similar lack of enthusiasm was evident in last year's reception of Rohullah Nikpai, who won the country's first Olympic medal. Nikpai is a taekwondo fighter and is an ethnic Hazara. But few people apart from the Hazaras were happy about his success. Many Afghans expect sport teams – and all other aspects of society – to function like a coalition government, ensuring tribal, racial and regional balance. This expectation started with Karzai's administration, the foundations of which were based on such principles. The result has been that Afghanistan's sport teams have repeatedly been defeated in recent years.

But the second reason that the cricket team is viewed with suspicion has to do with the fact that most of the sportsmen have lived in Pakistani refugee camps. Afghans view the team's success as part of a Pakistani conspiracy, leading to an intensification of Pakistan's influence on Afghan culture and society. They argue, in particular, that Afghanistan's first-ever cricket federation was founded in 1995, in Pakistan.

Yet another reason for Afghan animosity towards the team is its link to Imran Khan, a former captain of the Pakistani cricket team. Suspicious Afghans believe Imran Khan to be the team's founder and main supporter. Imran Khan is from the Pashtun Niazi tribe, many members of which live in Afghanistan. He is someone who has repeatedly talked about the Pashtun issue, their lack of power in Pakistan and even the Taliban. According to the journalist Ahmed Rashid, during the Taliban era Imran Khan was in contact with the head of Pakistani intelligence, Hamid Gul. They also argue that his founding of the Movement for Justice party and his candidacy in the Pakistani presidential elections are evidence of his political ambitions. There has never been any proof of Imran Khan's direct or indirect role in the Afghan cricket team but the Afghans' suspicion increased when the team was seen training either in the city of Lahore or at Peshawar's Niazi sports club.

More suspicion was caused by the admission that some of the team members were born in Islamabad, while some said in interviews that they only listen to Pakistani songs. But most Pashtuns in both countries have never accepted the border and all major Pashtun tribes in Afghanistan have relatives in Pakistan. So, in a way, their having been brought up in Pakistan is irrelevant to their sense of loyalty.

But the team's supporters and Pashtuns who follow sport news disregard such tensions in their writing and focus mainly on the ban on playing cricket during the Taliban era. They view the team as a source of pride for Afghanistan and the cause of a change in the country's image in the world. I agree with them that the team's success has been a soothing balm for the wounded pride of all Afghans.

Be this as it may, cricket is not without history in Afghanistan. According to Roy Morgan's encyclopedia of world cricket, the British troops brought cricket to Kabul in 1839. The game was played there for a long time but never attracted Afghan players or audiences. A century and a half later, in 1995, the game returned to Afghanistan via Pakistan and in 2001 the Afghan team became a member of the International Cricket Council. The first Afghan game was played against a local team in Peshawar's gymkhana sport club. In 2003, the team became a member of the Asian Cricket Council and over the last two years it has had many remarkable victories. But still the Afghan capital has neither a cricket training ground nor a proper league. In contrast to cricket, there are plenty of organised and functioning football, volleyball and martial arts leagues operating in Kabul and provincial cities.

Despite all this, the young team is hoping to eventually win the Afghans' trust. Even if Afghans carry on refusing to watch them play or receive them with flowers upon their victorious return from tournaments, the least they can do is to acknowledge them as Afghanistan's national players and love them for it.

Translated by Nushin Arbabzadah
24  General / General Discussion / Re: Qizilbash-Tajiks - and Hazaras on: May 15, 2009, 06:28:52 PM
Most Tajiks in Kabul and the south were against Abdur Rahman Khan. Abdur Rahman Khan was a brutal dictator who killed Tajiks Hazaras Pashtuns and Uzbeks and he will never serve as an icon for Tajiks. I am not standing against him because he killed my ancestors but he created this illigitemate concept of "Afghanistan". his unity existed during Nader Khan's reign also and it wasn't because the masses were accepting the government but people were being oppressed and the rulers were tyrants.

Majority of the Qizilbash fled Kabul and they settled in either modern-day Kashmir or Pakistan. it is said that atleast 500,000 Qizilbash families fled. Pakistan's former president Yahya Khan was a Qizilbash from Kabul. not only did Shia Tajiks flee but Sunni Tajiks from Kabul also fled because of Abdur Rahman's brutality.

The only positive thing Abdur Rahman did for us is that he crushed the Uzbek warlords in Kunduz, Badakhshan, and Balkh.

500'000 families ?  Are you sure ?  That would make Kabul an overpopulated Qizil Bash city.  And that represents 60% ?  Yahya Khan is known as a Pashtun general amongst Pakistanis.

I understand that for an ardent Shia Qizilbash  -  AMirAbdurRahman Khan   and his  massacre   of   fellow Shia Hazaras is a sour point -  he was ardently against Shias in order to smash Hazaras..... but  if cannot be an icon for Qizilbash  -  he also cannot be an icon for Pashtuns or Pashtunism.  Qizilbash -  as a political force -  do not represent Tajiks or Khurasan -- they have seen themselves as a people apart. Only recently this talk of 'Tajikam' has started -and most is insincere. Why do you condone his smashing of Uzbeks but not of Hazaras ?

He was made Amir by Tajiks -  and  smashed many Tajik enemies with largely Tajik Sunni armies - especially in the north - capturing Herat from Ayub Khan and Kandahar eventually ----- smashing all the tribal  invader elements - Ghilzai Uzbek Hazara and according to you, the Qizilbash aswell - even though most of his ancestors had Qizilbash blood.  Qizilbash - as a political entity coming to end is not the same as ethnic cleansing of Qizilbash - and arguably a good thing.  All accepted - Shia included- the Sunni identity of that land.

What Hazara and Uzbek nationalists cry for is their freedom to reign over those territories which they came as invaders - and constantly badmouth Amir Abdur Rahman Khan - and call it Pashtunism - when it was far from that - and they are aided in that revisionist view of history by Pashtunists whom gladly would appropriate anything to represent Pashtunism - even nominal Pashtuns like Amir Abdur Rahman and would even shamelessly extend their supposed Pashtun domination theory all the way to fictional Amir Kror....... both groups are misrepresenting history and both are enemies of Khurasan.

Hazaras were glad allies of fascist Amanulah - whom started the idea of Pashtunism to be the meaning of AFGHANistan - the foul concept of AFGHANistan - to mean land of Afghans - ie Pashtuns.


Current Iran backed Wahdati Wahshis and Dostum to try to take Balkh - but were prevented by Ustad Atta - and if they are giving some money to him ( whilst giving hundreds of millions to fascist gang around Karzai)  - along side the vast amounts he makes from the border trade - do not mean that suddenly Iran is a friend of Tajiks. They have only slightly let up on their Hazara card after realizing how futile is was to attempt to spread militant Shiaism to its east - but to its west - in Iraq - it has been devastating that land. In Iraqi Kurdistan - they nominally back secularists - but those secular  Kurds are minor when practically the whole government is run by Shia people they backed.

In Herat - working with Afghan Mellatis - Iran is working against Sunni Persians - Karzi is given millions by Iran - until very recently a Hazara Shia was governor - at the behest of IRAN  !   They have been giving land to Hazaras and turning it into a client province of their own.... with western backing. But they will pay for it - as will their running dog Hazara clients and other Akhundophiles - the real people of Herat will massacre them. 

The recent killings in Farah were of Tajiks - Sunni Persians - with Afghan interior ministry involvement - part of the same anti SunniPersian movement.

The name of Iran is a sheep skin over a wolf militant rabid Shiasm - representing a continuation of Turkic Safawid power.


25  General / General Discussion / Re: My Respectful Critique of the Khorasanni Movement on: May 14, 2009, 08:08:11 PM
Lindt

I dont want to see my country divided. I was only speaking in the hypothetical. That ideally, each ethnicity would have their own state, but that is not nor will ever be the case, so we should focus on our homes

Ahhangar

I agree with many of your points, however I condemn your statement that Khorassan stands for anti Pashtunism. Why should it? Are Pashtuns not citizens of that land? Our we not an Iranic people? I agree that Dari/Farsi is the lingua franca of our country, and attempts to change this by force have not only failed but created resentment of Pashto. But must we condemn and ban Pashto?

I oppose any attempts to enforce Pashto as Dari/Farsi has long been the language of business, communication and Academia. But surely as Pashtuns we are entitled to have our own language schools. Would our country not be better served if as much citizens were bilingual as possible? Again, there is no denying Daris predominance, but is not viable to have our federal civil service/govt officials be bilingual?


Anti Pashtunism is not anti Pashtun people. It is anti - the Pashtu and Pashtun centric view on all thing relating to national life of the state. It is the stopping of the promotion of tribalism and the encouragement of the removal of tribal identities and structures.

All languages of the land, no matter how few speakers it has, deserve the title of 'national language'. This recognition will basically recognize those languages as national assets - to be protected by the state.

Schooling language  - should be in local and Parsi e Dari upto end of primary level - age 11 - but after the educational language to be just Parsi e Dari. This does not mean pupils shall not have options to take literature courses in their own languages or any of the other national languages - along side compulsory Parsi e Dari literature course.

Khurasan with official language - Parsi e Dari.

This will encourage the breakdown of tribal identities and engender true - legitimate national unity - whilst recognizing the historic ties that land has to the entire region giving it the capability to influence neighboring states - through the multilingual abilities of the some of the citizens. The future is that of greater and greater coming together of states into unions.

Ahhangar
26  General / General Discussion / Re: My Respectful Critique of the Khorasanni Movement on: May 14, 2009, 08:55:24 AM
Brothers and Sisters

Before I present my critique of the Khorassan movement, I would like to take the time to explain my background and positions to better contextualize my argument.

I am a Pashtun. I am a proud Pashtun. If this fact alone, makes me a target of hate in your eyes than so be it. Your ignorance will condemn you, not me. This critique of mine is not addressed to you whose heart is filled with hate, as it is obvious that logic is foreign to you, and thus I do not wish to waste my breath on you.

I hope to speak to those proud Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens and Hazaras who- while cognizant of history also acknowledge reality- have hate for those who hate them. To them I say, I have no hate for you.

As a Muslim, as an Afghan, I could never hate a people who have contributed what your people has contributed to the world. I could never hate those who have never hated me. I appreciate and respect your history, culture and most importantly your grievances.

I acknowledge the bloodshed of Ahmad Shah, the brutality of Abdul Rahman, the treachery of Nader, the incompetence of Zahir, and the ignorance of Khar Omar.

I would assume that you would all condemn the ignorance and criminality that has emerged from your communities, but I will not tie my condemnation to yours, as I condemn with no preconditions.

I acknowledge that Afghanistans name and borders are fabricated and imposed. Khorasaan is a more appropriate name for the region, history confirms this.

Ideally the north would belong to Bukhara, the west to Persia and the Pashtun areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan a Pakhtunkhwa.

However the current arrangement is what we are stuck with. We have no choice. International law has accepted the legality of colonial borders. The current borders of Afghanistan is as much a disservice to Pashtuns as it is to non Pashtuns.  We don’t appreciate being separated from our brothers any more than you do from yours.

Having said that, here is my critiques of the Khorassan movement

It is not practical.

Again as a I stated,  international law has accepted the legality of colonial borders. Redrawing the map of Afghanistan would require us to involve nuclear Pakistan, powerful Iran and the central asian states that are controlled by the Russians, not to mention the US, China and Intl bodies would be involved.

It is a fantasy

It exists on line. Period. It is no different than playing Risk or Counter strike, or Dungeons and Dragons. There is no means to actualize these fantasies in Afghanistan. The majority of Afghans identify as an Afghan citizen as opposed to their ethnicities.

It works on paper only

Right now non Pashtuns are united in their shared oppression at the hands of Pashtuns historically, as soon as we are removed from the equation you will fight amongst yourselves. There is nothing to indicate there will all of a suidden be a miraculous peace, love and harmony amongst the people. There are linguistic differences, cultural differences, religious differences. Anti Pashtunism can only unite so much.

It will replace one form of subjugation for another

If not the subjugation of one ethnicity over the other, then the subjugation of Khorasannis by Iranians or Russians. Your brothers in the north have lost their faith and even their Persian script. Also actions in central Asia demonstrate that even amongst Uzbeks and Tajiks, there is some conflict. Is not Samarkand and Bukhara Tajik cities? Do you think Iran would accept the independence of a Pan Iranic state? Do you think the Shia theocracy would accept a largely Sunni Persian state. You would be seen as rivals not allies

I think that we need to face the realization that for better of for worse, Afghanistan is our homeland. We need to work together to ensure a multi ethnic, secular state with respect for all. A democracy with respect to human rights and the rule of law will ensure all ethnicities are given a fair share. We need to remove the biases against languages and cultures. I would accept even Khorasan as our name, except many of you have affiliated this beautiful name with anti Pashtunism

I look forward to some intellectual responses. Please share your views

Khuda Hafiz


Why do you assume a Khurasan movement would want to divide or redrawn any borders ?  That is your fallacy.  The people whom want to redrawn borders are the Pukhtunistan irredentists - so talk to them. These seem to think that Pashtuns are the core of the country and interpret everything along those lines.

This Afghanistan - as it is drawn on the map - all of it is Khurasan. The real - native - original name of that land is Khurasan - and          ' 'Afghanistan' is a colonial imposition of European manufacture.   The very term Afghan is tribal and anti-unity for the people of that land.

Of course Iran is no friend of Tajiks - they are friends of Shia Hazara first and Pashtun tribalists second - and Tajiks last - as is shown in their history.  The whole regional system in that part of the world is created on the basis of crushing Persianate Sunnite identity of the land.  British in the south and east and Russian in north - Shia Turk in the west.  We have plenty of enemies - and redrawing border is indeed unrealistic. We know that it was us whom fought and created this space free from the further encroachment of the various empires.

The very concept of Afghanistan is what people have problem with - not the land or its borders. 

Khurasan is indeed anti Pashtunism. It is for a single official language - Parsi e Dari - as it was in all history - as it was in the time of Amir Abdur Rahman Khan.



27  General / General Discussion / Pakistani Sources say 'US floats Hekmatyar-Karzai power sharing formula' on: May 13, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
LAHORE: Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, the former prime minister of Afghanistan and the chief of the Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan (HIA), once favoured by Washington and later declared a most wanted fugitive by the FBI, has recently been offered a power sharing deal by the Obama administration for the post-election set up in Kabul, as a part of the US exit strategy from Afghanistan.

Well-informed diplomatic circles in Islamabad say the power sharing deal was floated recently by US Special Envoy Richard Holbrooke during his Afghanistan visit. Holbrook reportedly asked President Karzai that following the failure of his efforts for a truce with the Taliban leadership, he should start communicating with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who carries a $25 million bounty together with the Taliban ameer Mullah Mohammad Umar. The diplomatic circles say the Obama administration has already re-established contacts with Hekmatyar’s close circles and have offered some ministries in the Kabul government to his party, but if he agrees to renounce militancy and join hands with Karzai before the upcoming presidential elections in Afghanistan.

The diplomatic sources said that a deputy of Richard Holbrooke and an emissary of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (believed to be his longtime lieutenant Daud Abidi, an Afghan-American based in California as well as a prominent businessman, social worker and a former representative of the HIA) also took place in recent weeks which is being described in the White House circles as a landmark move in the US’ stated aim of involving militant groups in ending the conflict in Afghanistan. At the same time, however, there are those who say the choice of Hekmatyar also indicates just how desperate the United States is in finding an escape route from the escalating crisis in Afghanistan.

For years, the decision makers in CIA have branded Hekmatyar an irreconcilable militant. The fact, however, is that his Hizb-e-Islami still enjoys standing in Afghanistan and literally controls the strategically crucial province of Kapisa. The Americans concede that Hekmatyar’s forces have emerged since last year as the most important component of anti-Western coalition resistance in the wear torn Afghanistan. While most of Taliban-led resistance is situated near the Pak-Afghan borders, insurgent forces loyal to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar hold complete command over Kapisa province’s Tagab valley, hardly 30 kilometers north of Kabul.

The HIA, founded by Hekmatyar, was one of the most effective mujahideen groups to fight the Soviet invasion during the 1980s. Pakistan always wanted him to run Afghanistan for Islamabad but he was never trusted by the fellow Pashtun militias and kept out of Kabul. Hekmatyar had fought his Afghan rivals mercilessly and hardly ever compromised. Isolated in the extreme, he went and stayed in Iran to survive, and returned from there in 2001 in time to, as he boasted to the BBC, “Help Osama bin Laden escape from Tora Bora after the US-led Allied Forces invaded Afghanistan”. As things stand, he himself is rumoured to be flitting between Kapisa and the trouble stricken North Waziristan tribal region in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) of Pakistan with some important contacts within the Pakistani establishment.

The Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan (Islamic Party of Afghanistan, or HIA), sidelined from Afghan politics since the fall of the mujahideen regime to the Taliban in the mid-1990s, had re-emerged last year as an aggressive militant group, claiming responsibility for many bloody attacks against the Allied and NATO Forces and the administration of President Hamid Karzai. Led by 61-year-old Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a charismatic engineer, former premier and mujahideen commander once favored by Washington—the HIA had even claimed responsibility for an attack on a military parade in Kabul from which President Hamid Karzai escaped unharmed.

Although Hamid Karzai may have serious reservations over the recently floated American power sharing formula, the diplomatic circles say he is under grave American pressure to seriously think over the proposal and take a decision as early as possible. These circles say the American power sharing offer indicates Hekmatyar clout in the Afghan politics, though his name has been largely absent from the Afghan scene over the last few years. However, the diplomatic circles say Karzai’s decision to choose Afghanistan’s worst warlord, General Faheem, as vice president for the coming elections could spoil any possible deal between Karzai and Hekmatyar?

These circles say it is difficult to imagine Hekmatyar letting his party cohabit with a government that has his old Tajik sworn enemy as vice president. The Hizb-e-Islami Afghanistan, whose political wing has offices all over Afghanistan and keeps 40 seats in the Afghan parliament, has already repeated its resolve to replace Afghan President Hamid Karzai in the upcoming presidential elections. Hekmatyar’s close circles insist he has a great future in Afghan politics being the only credible Pashtun strongman untainted by al-Qaeda and possibly capable of taking on the Taliban as well.
28  General / General Discussion / Re: Qizilbash-Tajiks - and Hazaras on: May 13, 2009, 09:55:35 AM
Thanks for the name. I would be glad if you could point to some of his articles and books - it would be great to have more of his interviews.

Husain Khan Panjshir uniting Qizil Bash and Panjshiris against Abdur Rahman Khan ?  I do not know of this.... are you sure you do not mean against Amanulah Khan ?  If it was against Abdur Rahman Khan - what did the Panjshiris and Qizilbash have in common against Abdur Rahman Khan ? 

They supported Sher Ali Khan.


Ok. Tell us more - what was background - and what happened eventually after Amir Abdur Rahman was made Amir in Charikar ?

Hussain Khan Panjshiri and his family with a couple thousand other Kabulis fled to Kashmir when Abdur Rahman Khan captured Kabul from Sher Ali Khan.

Abdur Rahman Khan did liberate some Tajiks in northern Afghanistan but at the same time he killed thousands of Tajiks in kabul and in the south. During his rule 60% of the Tajik Shias who lived in Kabul fled to India because of his opression on them.

Why were they against Abdur Rahman Khan - and so many other Tajiks were not  ?

Do you not agree that smashing Ghilzai and Hazara and Uzbek Khans was a good thing ?  And recognizing the eastern border ?  Persian was the only official language - which was very effective in bringing unity to the whole land.

Qizilbash - despite being Shia - have historically been very influential and close in the circles of power....  that 60% figure - it is a figure which Hazara nationalist also use for their supposed loss of fellow Hazaras to Abdur Rahman Khan - a big exaggeration.  But - if as you say - those Qizilbash had allied themselves with a rival of Amir  Abdur Rahman Khan - then of course they would have paid for it...but not such a high price of 60% - for the Qizlbash remained influential still after Abdur Rahman - think about the role they had in the removal of Amanulah.

What I am sick of is the constant bad mouthing of Amir Abdur Rahman Khan - he achieved more than anyone for the smashing anti Tajik elements. It was the murtad Amanulah Khan whom started worshiping tribalism and through his mentor Tarzi  - rabid secular Pashtunism - and continued through Nadir Shah with his brothers.

I would appreciate some additional background material on those events.

Thanks.
29  General / General Discussion / KAPISA GIRLS SCHOOL POISONING Re: ' ۱۲۶ دانش آموز دختر در کاپیسا مسموم شدند' on: May 12, 2009, 07:24:12 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO5qEu5LS7A" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO5qEu5LS7A</a>


MAHMUD RAQI, Afghanistan (AFP) — Another 98 Afghan girls were rushed to hospital on Tuesday in the latest in a spate of mysterious poisonings to hit three schools north of Kabul in a fortnight, officials said.

The children fell ill as they entered the school building in the small town of Mahmud Raqi, about 70 kilometres (45 miles) north of the capital, teachers and students told AFP.

"There was a strange smell and some students fainted, others felt sick," said a teacher named only Humaira. Soon nearly all the students at the Aftabaki Girls High School felt ill, she told AFP.

A doctor dealing with the case said that the school had apparently been filled with gas overnight, and that radical Islamist insurgent groups opposed to the education of girls could be responsible.

Ambulances and police vehicles rushed the affected children to the provincial hospital, said another teacher, Turyalai Khan.

"We admitted 98 schoolgirls and a few teachers today in our hospital with symptoms of semi-consciousness, weakness, vomiting, headache and dizziness," the head of the hospital, Ahmad Khalid Anayat, told AFP.

They became ill "apparently from some poisoning gas they respired," he said.

Sixty students were discharged by mid-afternoon and the remainder were expected to be sent home by the end of the day, he said.

It follows a similar incident on Monday about 20 kilometres away in the town of Charikar where 61 schoolgirls and one of their teachers were treated in hospital, apparently also after inhaling some form of gas.

Late April around 40 other girls were treated in a different school in Charikar with similar symptoms.

Jan Agha, a doctor dealing with the latest case in Mahmud Raqi, capital of Kapisa province, said "enemies of Afghanistan" -- a phrase that refers to various radical Islamist insurgent groups -- could have been responsible.

"It is not quite clear yet what caused the poisoning but it seems was from a poisoning gas by enemies of Afghanistan," Agha said.

The Taliban and other radical Islamic factions who also oppose the education of girls are waging an insurgency against the new administration that has seen several attacks on boys' and girls' schools.

Schoolgirl Razma, 16, told AFP from her hospital bed that she had smelt something sour which had burnt her nose.

"As we walked into the building, we smelled an unknown smell and soon students complained they felt sick and some fell to the ground," she said.

Blood samples had been sent to Kabul to find out what the cause was, doctors said.

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China Agency

    KABUL, May 12 (Xinhua)-- Nearly 100 girl students and teachers of a school in Kapisa province, 80 km north of the Afghan capital Kabul, mysteriously fell unconscious on Tuesday, spokesman of Public Health Ministry Ahmad Farid Rahed said.

    "A possible poisonous gas attack in Qazak Girl School this morning in Kohistan district has sickened 90 students and seven teachers," Rahed told Xinhua.

    The affected students felt dozy and vomiting, he added.

    Rahed also said that investigation is underway to identify the reason for the tragic incident.

    This is the second attack on female students over the past two days and the third attack since early last month.

    A similar attack on a girl school in Charikar, the capital of Parwan province, sent 52 students to hospital while previous attack early last month had sickened over three dozen female pupils.

    No groups or individuals have claimed responsibility so far.     


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MUHMUD RAQI, Afghanistan (AP) — At least 98 people from an Afghan girls’ school were admitted to a hospital on Tuesday for headaches and vomiting in the third such episode in three weeks, officials and doctors said.

An Interior Ministry spokesman, Zemeri Bashary, said that officials suspect some sort of gas poisoning, and that the police were still investigating.

Hospital officials said blood samples had been sent to medical authorities in the capital, Kabul, for testing.

Though it was unclear if the recent poisonings were the result of attacks, militants in southern Afghanistan have previously assaulted schoolgirls by spraying acid in their faces and burning down schools. But with no group claiming responsibility, some officials speculated that the illnesses could be the result of group hysteria.

In the episode on Tuesday, students were lining up outside their school in northeastern Afghanistan when one girl collapsed, said the school’s principal, Mossena, who was herself in a hospital bed gasping for breath as she described the event. She said a strange odor had filled the schoolyard.

“We took her inside and splashed water on her face,” said Ms. Mossena, who like many Afghans goes by one name. Then other girls started passing out. Ms. Mossena said she did not know what happened next because she collapsed and woke up in the main hospital here in Muhmud Raqi, the capital of Kapisa Province, which lies just northeast of Kabul.

Among those admitted from the Aftab Bachi school were at least 84 girls, the principal, 11 teachers and two cleaners, said Khalid Enayat, the hospital’s deputy director.

He said about 30 more students were being monitored to see if they developed symptoms, although they were not admitted to the hospital.

On Monday, 61 girls and one teacher from a school in neighboring Parwan Province were admitted to a hospital after complaining of sudden illness.

They were irritable, confused and weeping, and several of the girls passed out, the authorities said.

A similar event took place late last month, also in Parwan, when dozens of girls were hospitalized after being sickened by what Afghan officials said were strong fumes or a possible poison gas cloud.

The patients in Kapisa complained of similar symptoms — headaches, vomiting and shivering — to those in Parwan, said Aziz Agha, a doctor treating the girls.

30  General / General Discussion / Re: ' ۱۲۶ دانش آموز دختر در کاپیسا مسموم شدند' on: May 12, 2009, 07:09:58 PM
I wonder who it is that is doing these despicable acts.

I get the feeling that it is the government along with their Gulbudini allies - trying to create havoc in a peaceful Tajik province.  That Farah bombing -  was also I believe a deliberate act on the part of government run politiks. They also actively promote drug abuse amongst the people in the areas they control.  It is all a war of attrition against the Tajik peoples of that land.
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