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i took the above from a site that one of the brothers posted it in here in a different thread.  to be honest with you i have most of the time had this issue with iranian fellows asking me: you speak good farsi, where did you learn it? or some other ppl says: it's good to be with us, you will improve your farsi skills.  it is really really painful.

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 09:48:19 PM »

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اگر آزدی ما زیر سوال برود و اگر غرور ملی ما درهم شکسته شود و اگر استقلال ما نابود گردد، در آن صورت این زندگی ما کوچکترین لزت و ارزشی ندارد. احمد شاه مسعود
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2007, 12:57:02 AM »

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???? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ???? ??? ?? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ????? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?? ????? ?? ???? ????? ???. ?? ?? ???? ??????? ?? ?? ???????? ???? ?? ????? ????? ?? ?? ???? ?????? ? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ???.
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There is a popular serial in Iranian TV which happens in Tajikestan, and one of my Iranian friends mentioned it to me and sent some Tajik videos from Tajikestam on youtube. So, at least Tajikestan is slowly becoming known, and it helps that they have lots of happy music with lots of dancing, and it does not look Islamic at all. About Afghanistan, more education is needed, but it is funny how Iranian think all Afghans are like Hazaras and mongol looking. When they see someone mongol looking, they say: "an Afghan". One of my friends even laughed when I said that I had a Tajik friend from Afghanistan - he thought the Afghan guy was trying to cover up and pass for a Tajik to be better accepted. So, what can you do about it ? I am sure there is a way to change perceptions ...
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There is a popular serial in Iranian TV which happens in Tajikestan, and one of my Iranian friends mentioned it to me and sent some Tajik videos from Tajikestam on youtube. So, at least Tajikestan is slowly becoming known, and it helps that they have lots of happy music with lots of dancing, and it does not look Islamic at all. About Afghanistan, more education is needed, but it is funny how Iranian think all Afghans are like Hazaras and mongol looking. When they see someone mongol looking, they say: "an Afghan". One of my friends even laughed when I said that I had a Tajik friend from Afghanistan - he thought the Afghan guy was trying to cover up and pass for a Tajik to be better accepted. So, what can you do about it ? I am sure there is a way to change perceptions ...



as long as the iranina gov/ppl dont lose their snobbish attitude towards other ppl especially the farsi speakers, this will continue.  look at iranian private tv channels, they broadcast all sort of music from indian, turkish, arabic, etc but they never broadcast a single song from afghanistan, i only once saw a famouse song from tajikistan "Arose Qasab" and thats it. although all of us watch their tv channels with eager just because they are our farsi speakers.

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as long as the iranina gov/ppl dont lose their snobbish attitude towards other ppl especially the farsi speakers, this will continue.  look at iranian private tv channels, they broadcast all sort of music from indian, turkish, arabic, etc but they never broadcast a single song from afghanistan, i only once saw a famouse song from tajikistan "Arose Qasab" and thats it. although all of us watch their tv channels with eager just because they are our farsi speakers.

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Well Iranian people need to be educated, that is all. Once they are presented with the good cultural and historical aspects of a country they will change their thinking. Americans think bad things about Iran too, and through some educational programs some of them have come to be more respectful.

Another thing, you and  many of your friends from Afghanistan should call these TV channels and write letters, flood them with letters, saying that large segment of virewership which is Afghan is dissatisfied with the lack of such programming. Be patient, and flood them with mail, email, call them, and even phone some arts journalists. Over time, it will change little by little, but you cannot just sit down and complain. Why not select what you think are the best Afghan music vidoes and present them to a few people - they might be interested because bit by bit their audience might ask more too ... for example, you could even give them old stuff from Ahmad Zahir and others.
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