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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2008, 11:04:27 AM »

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Dear Ghorzang,

I wonder why people like you and Shinno do not educate other Pashtuns so they can be enlightened as well. It would be a lot better place if both sides have respect toward each other and do not undertake any uncivilized actions. We are definitely rectifying on our side. What are you doing on your side?

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I am educating Pashtuns, but I am not in a position from where I can make major progress.
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2008, 02:18:14 PM »

Good to hear that you are educating Pashtuns, that's already a huge contribution for your people. What specific course of actions are you taking to educate fellow Pashtuns?


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I am educating Pashtuns, but I am not in a position from where I can make major progress.
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 01:13:45 AM »

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Good to hear that you are educating Pashtuns, that's already a huge contribution for your people. What specific course of actions are you taking to educate fellow Pashtuns?


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I am one of the active members of Pashton community here in Canada. We have organized several BBQs, Picnics and other events for the Pashtoon community both locally and regionally. We invite Pashtons from different regions to set together and eliminate their differences.

With my little knowledge of web designing, I have started working on few pashto websites. I have created the first online Pashto library and now I have around 45 books in my database. I am also creating websites (or helping ) for organizations like (www.mirmanbaheer.org - It is a women's organization based in Kabul).

I have bigger projects in my mind and I will be starting one of them in September (if Allah is willing). With the help of various Afghan Student Associations in Canadian universities, government officials, organizations and my friends, I will be starting a book drive for the universities of Afghanistan. This project will benefit not only Pashtons, but all citizens of Afghanistan. Once I am successful with this book drive I will expand and add other projects.

All these events, bbq, websites, or book drives might not sound a lot, but they are way more than enough for a full time university student.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 03:40:43 PM »

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Dear Ghorzang,
I wonder why people like you and Shinno do not educate other Pashtuns so they can be enlightened as well. It would be a lot better place if both sides have respect toward each other and do not undertake any uncivilized actions. We are definitely rectifying on our side. What are you doing on your side?
Regards,
Pors.


Being a student i don't really have enough time to do anything very useful at the moment, but once i finish education i hope to get involved more in the community. I try my best to dismiss any false allegations made against tajiks or hazaras in my family circle and other poeple i know. Fortunately most of my family members are educated and unprejiduced. If we all start with our own families i think we can make a big difference, as the chinese say "peace at home,peace in the world".
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2008, 03:51:18 PM »

Dear Shinno,

Thank you for your post. It's very pleasing to see a student being open-minded and unbiased, especially at this modern age when false information is spread very fast. Hope every other fellow Pashtun family will follow educated and respectful way as you and your family do. On our part, we will also refrain from retaliation and further conflict. You suggestion is very thoughtful for which we are glad to have you here. Thanks for sharing personal views.

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Being a student i don't really have enough time to do anything very useful at the moment, but once i finish education i hope to get involved more in the community. I try my best to dismiss any false allegations made against tajiks or hazaras in my family circle and other poeple i know. Fortunately most of my family members are educated and unprejiduced. If we all start with our own families i think we can make a big difference, as the chinese say "peace at home,peace in the world".
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2009, 10:23:02 AM »

Dear Shinno,

Thank you for your post. It's very pleasing to see a student being open-minded and unbiased, especially at this modern age when false information is spread very fast. Hope every other fellow Pashtun family will follow educated and respectful way as you and your family do. On our part, we will also refrain from retaliation and further conflict. You suggestion is very thoughtful for which we are glad to have you here. Thanks for sharing personal views.

Regards,



Pors.

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Being a student i don't really have enough time to do anything very useful at the moment, but once i finish education i hope to get involved more in the community. I try my best to dismiss any false allegations made against tajiks or hazaras in my family circle and other poeple i know. Fortunately most of my family members are educated and unprejiduced. If we all start with our own families i think we can make a big difference, as the chinese say "peace at home,peace in the world".

I can’t come to the terms that with so many people in this form have bad thinks to say against the pashtoons, and you as a pashtoons your self is a member of this form 
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2009, 04:51:54 AM »

[I can’t come to the terms that with so many people in this form have bad thinks to say against the pashtoons, and you as a pashtoons your self is a member of this form 

well what exactly were you expecting? A utopia? This forum supposedly calls for ethnic unity, so of course people are going to have bad things to say about other groups. You see the same thing happening in Pashtun forums or any other ethnic forum for that matter. Racism is a disease that doesn't have plans on dying out anytime soon unfortunately
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2009, 05:37:07 PM »

I can’t come to the terms that with so many people in this form have bad thinks to say against the pashtoons, and you as a pashtoons your self is a member of this form 

Salam farid1,
Being a member of this forum doesn't mean i agree with everyone or everything said in this forum. The majority on this forum want free speech and want to represent and unite tajik peoples. There are however very few poeple who just want to bash pashtuns or are anti pashtuns but the majority are sincere people who want to stand up for their rights. Afghanistan has been unfortunately the land of so much suffering and conflict for the past 30 years and before that we are all looking for the reasons for our suffering and showing anger and frustration at our state. Some people just call for revenge and genocide while the majority are just trying to learn from their past mistakes and trying to lay foundations for a better future.
I come to this forum with sincere intentions where i can communicate with tajiks and non tajiks and hopefully add something to this forum. Its better to communicate and discuss problems rather than ignore them because without sincere discussion we will have a lot of misundrestanding as it is happening in Afghanistan where no one is listening to each other with sincere heart and blaming each other.
Have a nice day and happy nowrooz if you celebrate it.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2009, 08:46:00 PM »

at least some people bother to post ... good sign ... but pashtuns are doomed because they are so anti-Iranian, not even Tajiks can swallow that much hate against their Persian brothers in Iran. Sooner or later, Afg will be partitioned ... because Pashtuns are basically cavemen with turbans and it will take a 100 years to civilize them ... not worth anyone's while ... better let them rot in their caves and save the few good people left in Afghanistan (mostly Tajiks) from the cavemen
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2009, 07:22:41 AM »

who gives a damn about the ethnic composition of afghanistan? we're all so mixed and at the end of the day that it reallllllyyy doesn't matter. And what exactly is partitioning going to do eh? Is it going to drastically change the situation most people are in? Where are the resources going to come from? Will we have a common identity?

Why can't we fight the common enemies first? The Taliban may not be active in the North, but kaseef and besawad warlords are! In my eyes they are the same - filth. You should be worried about foreigners interfering... there's no secret that Pakis and Saudi's have had fun destroying our country. Iran too.

Why not prevent concepts like Loy Afghanistan ever happening? The only people that fancy the idea are the Pashtun from Pakistan and other watan froush Afghans. The same can be said to Khorasan zameen. We don't need divided land, nor do we need added land.

Admire what we have, and sympathise with how MOST people feel right now. Everyone has suffered, and many are still suffering. I find it so heartbreaking that people put their own interests first rather than the interests of their own country and its people.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2009, 08:25:17 AM »

Good theme. But again Lindt Ahmaqzai from the line of Arabzda Ahmad proved her ethnicity with her pagha dagha propaganda comments. Who is ''mixed? Tajiks are Tajiks, as long a Tajik speak his language and regard his identity he will be an Aryan, not a Jew or Moghul (Aughan). Some user should realize that we have here some Watanfrosha (Aughans) here. Just ask your father or your grandfather. They surely served foreigners. The fact is, the idea of Khurasan has a based sense and is very grippy while Aughanistan, the land of Jews and monkies from the mountains, is fallen in a deep coma and it will never wake up, never again (I thank god for that). Sooner or later, Non-Oughans will clean their country from every dirt, even from their own part, but specially the Pashtoons (mostly the criminal Kuchis and every other immigrant Arab, Jew or Turks and Mongols who are today 'Pashtun's), the original Jews of India and Pakiland will be the first ones. Everyone know that Oughans and other monkies are the most fascist bastards on earth. Oughans were always the bastards of these region and will always stay the bastards of these region. Once, the nobles are a part from the dirt, the dirt will destroy itself. And don´t play with the thought Oughoos will ever become civilized. They didn´t became civilized in the last 800 years since their foundation, how could they became today civilized when they are now worser than ever? Don´t be blind and see on Oughans in the western who adoptet Tajik customs and culture, see their original nature in their thinking, their behave in their own caves, no matter how much they are ''educated'', they will always stay Oughans. No matter, if they eat like Tajiks, dress like Tajiks or whatever...look deep in their dirty black hearts and you will understand these Jew in their natural form. The Oughoois from Aughanistan are the best prove for them.

Dear Non-Oughans, Lindt is the best example who these Ghools want to fool us and keep us weak. Brake their neck and get your freedom and rights.
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2009, 11:37:22 PM »

if you want to have an intelligent debate then please refrain from using profanities; it only just proves how desperate you are for words.
I in no way insinuated that I wanted to make any group weak. You're just reading what you want to read... what you really hope I'll say... what you hope I am, just to get your message across. I'm a realist, you are your 'Khorasan zameen' dreamers are not. If anything, this is what I'm pointing out. Furthermore, if you cannot directly contribute to the development of your people and their country, then put a cork in it.

LOL funny how you call me a watan froush... I want Afghanistan to prosper as much as it can without losing or adding land and without our people selling their souls to the devil. You my dear epitomise a watan froush. Who said that Farsiwans needed a seperate state in order for their culture and language to flourish? A Khorasan zameen won't have the Taliban lurking around, but it sure as hell won't put a stop to these barbaric warlords who rape children and steal from families. See, another hilarious thing that has also caught my attention is how you firmly believe that I am a Jew 'Oughan' just cos I see everyone in an equal light. I WANT my own kin to develop Farsi and their culture because we NEED to. YOU want the same but for some reason you want to nuke anyone who doesn't speak Farsi or follow Tajik culture and to me that is not very Tajik of you. I don't know what religion you follow, but surely Zarathustra would have looked down on your delusional and extremist ideas.

so much for Tajikam against racism :(
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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2009, 12:20:33 PM »

Lindt in your Anti-racism ideas; You are agree. This is not they way to go ahead, but to express ideas without making others down. But we must accept this that the reality and facts are always hard to endure for the people who are doing wrong things.
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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2009, 06:12:22 AM »

Salam Khurasani,

I'm not too sure if you were speaking about the reality and acceptance of facts in general or to a specific group of people, but I believe it is wrong to generalise about a whole group of people and when others do I can't help but question their sanity and age... it's so childish. there is so much of this on this forum... it's disgusting.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to have an ethnic, linguistic and cultural identity but attempting to revive any one of these doesn't require hating on another group. I am not a Pan anything,  I see Afghanistan for what it is and what it has. Just because I find an idea like Khurasan zameen absurd doesn't mean I'm a traitor. personally, i'm sick of personal attacks being made by Khurasanzad and find it upsetting that  facists like him/her are crawling around... what a waste of space.
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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2009, 07:14:14 AM »

Oh my god, the child of a Aughan fascist hound who still act like his arab-masters calls a noble Khurasanian as ''fascist''. Lindt, the fact is, your entire nation was always known for their barbary and their sick behaves. If you study the history of Central Asia and India and the biographies of all Non-Oughoo powers you will see that everyone of them called you pigs and dogs, wild cultureless monkies living on mountains raping eachother. That´s your jewish blood and nothing will change it. As many historians gave us very good pictures about the Oughans, the present give them right. Nearly every magazkhel is a fascist and a dirt-bag. If they are not the enemy then why don´t they stop the actions of their own blood brothers? Why are they self so fascists. One day, the entire civilized cultures will bomb you rightly back to the era of neanderthales...go and ask a Oughan hound why he does not want to change the jewish name of holly Khorasan? Because they are fascists and would they change everything to the right way they would be again called as immigrants...as you are. And why is the idea of Khurasan ''absurd''? Can you explain that, Oughoo? Khurasan is absurd but Talibanistan or Dombdaristan is not? Understand it Oughoo, Oughanistan is dying. The dirty Pashtun country is lying in coma. Iguess you have again to much Sargin in your head. Only the strongest can survive and you Oughoos are for sure not the strongest people...just a lower caste rats with sick habits. Now go and ask your babas why they do not want to stop their dirty jewish-oughoo brothers in Helmand and Kandahar if they are soooo good people? Go to your Baba Kalan Kharzai. Tajiks, and Persian-speaking people in general had never forgotten something happened to/ or with them and they always revanged their enemies. And your turn will come very soon.

Oughan=Fascist=Criminal=Low class people witha  value lesser than that of a swine in an islamic country

What do you think the islamic world will do if they would know that you Satanists do not believe in Islam and Koran and only take the nations for foolish idiots? Yes...Jihaad against the KFR Oughoos in the holly country Khurasan
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