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Author Topic: Foreign vocabulars in Persian language in general and in it´s diff. dialects  (Read 30935 times)
Khurasanzad
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« on: December 26, 2008, 02:01:25 PM »

Let´s start to count all foreign words in our beautiful language. In general in Persian language as a whole and than as regional dialects. In addition, write the original Persian word for it. Let´s start

Top (ball) - turkic origine

Utu (smoothing-iron) - turkic origine

Baayzikel (bicycle) - english origine - Do-Charkha

Boot/But (shoe) - english origine - Kafsh

Qomandaan (commander/commandante) - Middle German/Anglo-German origine - Farmaanda

fikr kardan (to think) - arabic origine - khiaal kardan, kamaan kardan, andishidan, pendan kardan

Qalb (heart) - arabic origine - dil, dird/dord/dard/zird (related with ''dard'' (rang, gham))

Assad/Haidar (lion) - arabic origine - shir

Gul (flower) - turkic origine - Plu/Plaw/Plou/Plow from Old-Iranic (also in Old-Persian) Plauva and Middle-Iranic Pleu (also in Palavi)

merci (thanks) - primarely french - sepaas

halikoptar (helicopter) - english origine - Charkhaki

mafel (celebration/party) - arabic origine - Jashen (from Avestan amd Old-Persian Jasna/Yasna)

tefel (child/baby) - arabic origine - kodak

Iranian Persian
doucher (shower)- french origine - sho(u)shtan

papillon (bow) - french origine - Kamaan (''Aarash Kamaangir'')

cravate (cravate) - french origine in term but Iranic origine as subject - Niktaahi (Khorassani term)

Ghorbah (cat) - arabic origine - Peshak/Pishu (Khorassani-Iranic origine->Pisyk->Pisk->Pusk (Sogdian, Parthian/Choresmian and Bactrian; same word as people of Sweden use for cat)
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2008, 05:58:51 PM »

Nice!

Is the word for being fat - i.e CHAQ - of turkic origin?

Khanum is Turkic - Bannu is Persia  - anymore >?

If you write it in that way> Chagh than it´s not but arabic but with Q* it´s sound clearly Turkic lol

btw, it´s a bugg that I can write for Aahangar in his comment box :D --Khurasanzad
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009, 06:32:20 AM »

''Chagh'' is Turkic. The Persian word is ''Kata''. Either in Persian or in the european languages there was a lute moving, but possibly in Persian. In English it´s fat, in Greec pido, in German Fett...interesting information, the Arabs use for ''fat'' and ''dick'' the same words

Chaqu (knife) - turkic origine - kard

Ulaagh (donkey) - turkic - Gur (not Khar->Great)

Urdu (military) - turkic origine - nizami
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2009, 06:16:46 AM »

How about 'lotfan'? Is that of Turkic origin, or Persian? I know that Turkish people use it.

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2009, 06:28:29 AM »

Lotfan is arabic.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2009, 06:35:51 AM »

I dont think Gorbah is Turkic, it is persian.

If you want to find the origin of any word i suggest to look at Farhange Aamid.  It clearly mention the origin of every word.  The same thing is with Farhange Anand Raj, but I prefer Farhange Aamid.


If anybody finds Farhange Aamid online, please share it here with us.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 05:05:25 AM »

thanks unity.

does anyone know about the origin of the word 'kacholoo'?
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 05:17:22 AM »

Kachaloo does not look pure farsi to me.

I am also not sure about the words Toop and Gul to be turkish.  They are originally persian words.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 04:15:44 AM »

yeah same i never saw it as farsi. i know iranians use 'seb zamini' and that has french roots from what I've been told (I may be wrong but Frenchmen also literally say 'apple from the earth' for the word potato)



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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 05:27:06 AM »

I think seb zamini farsi.  it's a combined word.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2009, 02:20:45 AM »

yeh it is farsi... and literally means apple from the earth. but it's structure is similar to french (i don't know how to explain :S)
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2009, 09:36:11 PM »

Is there another way to say silk instead of saying abrisham?  I think I saw it spelled with a "zh." 

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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2009, 09:39:56 PM »

I posted a link but it was the wrong one. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2009, 01:36:33 AM »

Is there another way to say silk instead of saying abrisham?  I think I saw it spelled with a "zh." 

Tashakur

I think thats the only word for it in farsi.
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2009, 11:30:54 AM »

I found something interesting about the word, "yasamin" which exists in Arabic.  The root word of "yasamin" is "saman" which means that yasamin came into arabic through farsi.
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