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Author Topic: Foreign vocabulars in Persian language in general and in it´s diff. dialects  (Read 28828 times)
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2009, 01:27:14 PM »

I am sorry to get back on the topic of anar and nar, but is it possible that the Arabic word "nar," came from anar?
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2009, 01:30:36 PM »

I am sorry to get back on the topic of anar and nar, but is it possible that the Arabic word "nar," came from anar?

I dont think so.
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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2009, 01:37:28 PM »

Thanks Unity, that is what I thought.  I am sorry to bring up the subject again. 
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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2009, 01:40:28 PM »

I don't think "nar" came from "anaar." As Unity has mentioned, these are two different things. We need an etymologist here.

At the mean time, check out Dehkhoda's farhang: http://loghatnameh.com/



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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2009, 01:40:32 PM »

Thanks Unity, that is what I thought.  I am sorry to bring up the subject again. 

dont be sorry.  and you wellcom.
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2009, 01:49:37 PM »

I just typed the word into http://loghatnameh.com/ and it said that nar and anar have the same meaning. 

This is interesting.  I wonder if any of our poems use the word nar to describe anar?
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2009, 01:59:39 PM »

Saam,

Let me check these with one of my friends who is etymologist. I will get back to you with this.


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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2009, 02:04:54 PM »

Saam,

Let me check these with one of my friends who is etymologist. I will get back to you with this.


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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2009, 02:59:05 PM »

Saam,

Send me the link where you read "nar" and anar" have the same meaning from loghatnameh.

Sipos,



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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2009, 04:56:53 PM »

Saam,

Send me the link where you read "nar" and anar" have the same meaning from loghatnameh.

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I just typed in "nar" and I saw anar in there too.  But I could have read it wrong.  Also, in a dictionary that I have it lists nar can also be anar.
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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2009, 02:32:36 AM »

Nar might be used as a short form of Anar, but the actual Nar is Atash in Arabic.
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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2009, 05:40:22 AM »

in Turkish they say Nar for Anar
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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2009, 09:21:53 AM »

All this talk of nar is making me crave anar!  Ajab haali midahad anar! lols
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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2009, 10:05:33 AM »

Thank you for the clarification guys.

I have noticed that Iranians generally use Arabic words whilst in Farsi e Dari the word is English in origin. E.g. ''Mohandes'' is Arabic and Iranis use it and we say 'Enginyar'

Also out of curiousity, we might ask "Nom e tu/shoomoh che hast?" and on occasion I have heard 'Esm' being used which is Arabic and mainly used by Iranians. When I see 'nom' I think of the french language lol, so is it just a coincidence... or what?
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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2009, 10:16:12 AM »

In Tajikistan, I haven't heard anybody saying "esm" to refer to people's first names. Perhaps there are some but the number is probably below 1%. Also, people in Afghanistan and Iran say "esmi faamilie" (or something to that close) to refer to people's last names, while in TJ everybody says "nasab". As far as I know, "naam" and "nasab" are two of the older words from Middle Persian. - Pors
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پندار نیک>گفتار نیک>رفتار نیک
PENDARE NEK>GOFTARE NEK>RAFTARE NEK!
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