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Posted 30 June 2008 - 08:44 PM

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 09:05 PM

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=PORS;10808] ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? ??? ??

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:11 PM

[QUOTE=PORS;10786]Then we have to ask Shinno about it. He says he knows many good Iranians and has many Tajiks friends which I think anyone can say that even if it's not true. However, I do believe Shinno has something to say about it.


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i don't need to lie about anything. what is the point of me lying to you about knowing a few iranians and tajiks. having tajik friends is very easy as they are my fellow countrymen at the moment and i have met the iranians outside my country so it shouldn't be surprising really. the first job i had abroad i worked for an iranian guy who was my manager. after i working with him and other iranians, all i could say are good things about them as they treated me like one of their own.
as for tajiks, well they live all round pashtuns so of course i can get to know them easily and it shouldn't be really surprising.
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Posted 01 July 2008 - 10:29 PM

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But frankly, what is so great about Pashtoons ? Is there something I don't know. You sound like a very rational and wise person, however :) [/QUOTE]

I wouldn't call myself wise:D as there is much more to learn.
Well there is really nothing great about the pashtuns at the moment in general. There are however good individuals to be found amongst them. they may not be the greatest scientist or philosophers in the world but some of them have other qualities such as honesty and hospitality and warmth which is sometimes a better quality to have than writing the best epic or creating the mona lisa.
Given the right oppurtunaties they can achieve great things like any other peoples. every nation has the potential to be great but some achieve it and some don't and pashtuns have'nt achived it.
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 02:36 AM

Well, Iranians are not that great either, and we have a long way to go too compared to those nations who have achieved so much scientifically, technically, economically, and culturally.

Of course, a genuinely kind and considerate human being at is way superior to a tech-wizard with no heart in my book. Unfortunately, collectively Pashtoons are not know for their kindness or consideration ... but more for their violent, harsh and vindictive tribal ways. And there is no advancement in material areas to brag about or compensate somewhat for these flaws either. Am I wrong ? Again, no offsense meant personally ... and of course Iranians have their flaws too.


[QUOTE=shinno;10906]I wouldn't call myself wise:D as there is much more to learn.
Well there is really nothing great about the pashtuns at the moment in general. There are however good individuals to be found amongst them. they may not be the greatest scientist or philosophers in the world but some of them have other qualities such as honesty and hospitality and warmth which is sometimes a better quality to have than writing the best epic or creating the mona lisa.
Given the right oppurtunaties they can achieve great things like any other peoples. every nation has the potential to be great but some achieve it and some don't and pashtuns have'nt achived it.[/QUOTE]
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Posted 02 July 2008 - 11:45 PM

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Well, Iranians are not that great either, and we have a long way to go too compared to those nations who have achieved so much scientifically, technically, economically, and culturally.

Can you name any nation who have achieved culturally more than Iranians?
Literature/poetry is also part of science, social-science, and the works of Khawarizmi, Beruni and Ibn Sina....were the best in their time.

Economicly....Iranians are fucked by whole the world...while a state like Turkey for example....gets everything from Americans etc.
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Posted 03 July 2008 - 03:03 AM

I was talking about modern times (last 200 years for example) and comparing to Europe/USA when it comes to economy, science, technology.
[QUOTE=Rostam;10926]Can you name any nation who have achieved culturally more than Iranians?
Literature/poetry is also part of science, social-science, and the works of Khawarizmi, Beruni and Ibn Sina....were the best in their time.

Economicly....Iranians are fucked by whole the world...while a state like Turkey for example....gets everything from Americans etc.[/QUOTE]
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