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Posted 22 July 2008 - 09:33 AM

Kabul - Thousands of members of Afghanistan's Hazara ethnic minority protested Tuesday on the streets of Kabul over a land dispute with the nomadic Kochi tribe.

Hazara leaders charged that a dozen of their people were killed and thousands displaced in Kochi attacks in the central province of Wardak after the nomads entered the Besud district there in recent months in search of grazing land for their livestock.

Hazara people based in the district said the Kochi destroyed their harvest and houses, and this week, Haji Muhammad Muhaqiq, an Afghan lawmaker and leader of the Hazara community, went on hunger strike in protest of what his people have called a land grab.

Government officials gave no numbers of protest participants, but rally organizers said more than 8,000 people took part.

Demonstrators shouted slogans against the Kochis and carried posters of Hazaras they said were killed in Kochi attacks.

The dispute began a year ago over grazing rights in the Besud district. The Afghan government assigned two commissions to resolve the dispute, but they failed to do so.

President Hamid Karzai subsequently ordered the Kochis to leave the district, prompting the Afghan National Directorate of Security to warn that Hazaras had no need to demonstrate, but the Hazara community ignored the warning.
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Posted 22 July 2008 - 09:35 AM

Who are these "nomadic Kochi tribes"?
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 09:44 AM

[QUOTE=Afrasiab;11917]Who are these "nomadic Kochi tribes"?[/QUOTE]

They are Pashtuns from both sides of the Afg-Pak 2400 km border.
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 10:48 AM

Old stories.
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 06:17 PM

This coflict is not good for the Tajiks.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:21 AM

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Old stories.


What the dozak is that supposed to mean?

Anyway, here are pictures of the protest:
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:22 AM

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This coflict is not good for the Tajiks.


Why do you say that?

These protesters are very angry at Karzai... THAT is good. Finally people are realizing how two faced he is.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 06:36 AM

[QUOTE=dokhtare pulegun;12235]

These protesters are very angry at Karzai... THAT is good. [/QUOTE]

Karzai and his bunch are only individuals who will go away eventually, that is not important.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 07:14 AM

I really appreciate them; when i see them all together...(When i look to those photos)...
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 07:15 AM

[QUOTE=Khurasani;12254]I really appreciate them; when i see them all together...(When i look to those photos)...[/QUOTE]

Hazaras are stronger than the Tajiks!!! But this conflict of Kuchi/Hazara is not good for us.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 11:49 AM

Ok, Rika Khana. You keep saying that but you haven't say WHY. Please do so because you're confusing the rest of us with your hollow posts.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 12:05 PM

[QUOTE=Rika Khana;12255]Hazaras are stronger than the Tajiks!!! But this conflict of Kuchi/Hazara is not good for us.[/QUOTE]

tell us why?

The more unhappy ppl with karzai's gov, the weaker Karzai and his team will become.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 12:40 PM

I think it would be wiser for Tajiks to support Hazaras in their struggle against Kochis. That's a perfect moment for building a unity.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=Kambiz;12278]I think it would be wiser for Tajiks to support Hazaras in their struggle against Kochis. That's a perfect moment for building a unity.[/QUOTE]

I am a person who always want unity with Hazaras, but before that Tajiks must be united among themselves, otherwise their unity with hazaras will be totally meaningless. We have to support them and they need to support us.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=dokhtare pulegun;12272]Ok, Rika Khana. You keep saying that but you haven't say WHY. Please do so because you're confusing the rest of us with your hollow posts.[/QUOTE]

Dear dokhtare,

This conflict is one of the sources of talks of making Kuchis to abondan the gypsy style life and reside in one place. And the protesters are demanding for the the kuchis to be settled permanantly. Have we ever thought where they will be settled?
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 02:04 PM

Pakistan? Lol.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 02:17 PM

On a serious note, we cannot change people's way of life... Asking them to settle down will not work.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:16 PM

[QUOTE=dokhtare pulegun;12303]On a serious note, we cannot change people's way of life... Asking them to settle down will not work.[/QUOTE]

What if they decide to settle? where can they be place?
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:34 PM

[quote=Rika Khana;12355]What if they decide to settle? where can they be place?[/quote]
In southern or eastern Afghanistan.. :confused:
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=NightWish;12356]In southern or eastern Afghanistan.. :confused: [/QUOTE]

According to the members of Tajikam.com yes, but what do you think of realities on the ground back home?
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