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#1 User is offline   Azar_Khorasani Icon

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 09:17 PM

Our musicians betrayed us. When the culture of Indian music promotes by Afghan, the occupiers, we started to lose our own original Tajiks instruments. Today, our musicians just focus on market prices, using western or african items to make more money. They do not care about destroying a nation heritage. Some who left inside of the country, they also changed the culture of our music to something like Bacha Bazi entertainment. Presently we do not have anyone to represent our instrument in the world of music like Iranian singers such as Ustad Lotfi, Ustad Nazery, etc[IMG][IMG][IMG]http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~rkanda/GPS_TienShan2006/Figures_Images/DutarPlayer.jpg[/IMG][/IMG][/IMG]
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 09:54 PM

Supply is determined by demand. The demand is determined by our interests, desires, emotions, feelings, consciousness, knowledge, and abilities and all these are shaped mainly by social institutions and only after that by ourselves. Anyways, the government, in particular the ministry of culture should do its best to preserve the nations heritage and promote it. I do not think it is lost it completely, but it will be lost if the situation remains this way.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 02:08 AM

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Presently we do not have anyone to represent our instrument in the world of music like Iranian singers such as Ustad Lotfi, Ustad Nazery, etc


If only Bazgule Badakhshi was more popular...

but you cant force people to like a certain type of music! People like what they like!
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:05 AM

[QUOTE=Azar_Khorasani;12394]Our musicians betrayed us. When the culture of Indian music promotes by Afghan, the occupiers, we started to lose our own original Tajiks instruments. Today, our musicians just focus on market prices, using western or african items to make more money. They do not care about destroying a nation heritage. Some who left inside of the country, they also changed the culture of our music to something like Bacha Bazi entertainment. Presently we do not have anyone to represent our instrument in the world of music like Iranian singers such as Ustad Lotfi, Ustad Nazery, etc[IMG][IMG][IMG]http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~rkanda/GPS_TienShan2006/Figures_Images/DutarPlayer.jpg[/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/QUOTE]

Totally agree. And you can see its side effects in our every day life, the way people dress, its negative influence on the youth, the language, culture etc. Unfortunately this disease is going to Tajikistan as well, the singers(role models) dress like indians and their songs are inficted with this virus.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:08 AM

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If only Bazgule Badakhshi was more popular...
Agree, he was a great singer.


but you cant force people to like a certain type of music! People like what they like!

It is not about forcing. It is about caring about our culture and careful planning to preserve our values, in our case it has always been very hopeless.
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=Azar_Khorasani;12394]Our musicians betrayed us. When the culture of Indian music promotes by Afghan, the occupiers, we started to lose our own original Tajiks instruments. Today, our musicians just focus on market prices, using western or african items to make more money. They do not care about destroying a nation heritage. Some who left inside of the country, they also changed the culture of our music to something like Bacha Bazi entertainment. Presently we do not have anyone to represent our instrument in the world of music like Iranian singers such as Ustad Lotfi, Ustad Nazery, etc[IMG][IMG][IMG]http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~rkanda/GPS_TienShan2006/Figures_Images/DutarPlayer.jpg[/IMG][/IMG][/IMG][/QUOTE]

This is POV informations. Many instruments that were originally developed in central Asia penetrated India as well as other muslim countries and the other way round many european instruments (Guitar, Drummer,...) reached central Asia and withit also Tajiks and other people. Your claim about promotion of Indian music and instruments in Afghanistan by Afghans is groundless or have you ever seen Tajiks and Persian-Speaking people playing Raga?. Many Tajik singer from all part of the world, even those isolated, use the same instruments for many thousand years. And their music is mostly the same music as of their ancestors or a ''modified'' one. I am sure India has many goods that original came from their subcontinent (mostly in the paganic south->carnatic music) but mostly they use those instruments and produce music as the Arabs and other nations, mostly Persian-Speaking people, brought to them also there are alot of evidences that in some periodes Indians (if you call them as Indians) and central Asians were developing together new ways of culture.

Example: Most so-called Indian music are produced in Kabul (Gandhara was part of Kabul) under the Kabul-Shahi. Much earlier many different music styles were developed out of buddhism and meditation, also in the region of Gandhara and Kabul from where it reached every corner of central Asia where buddhism was flowing.

Gandharians (Kabuli people) are also ancestors of Tajiks or do you consider them as Indians? They were different than Indians in look and language. They were connected with the world of Tajiks and they became Farsi. So, if you judge ''Indian culture'' than you also judge your ancestors and their efforts to give you a culture. In General, everyone influenced eachother. Central Asia had influenced India, Europe and the arab countries while in the turned way they also influenced us. So no need to become embittered. It is a fact that Tajiks share with muslim India and Pakistan the same culture (also Iranians, Turks and other do, including Arabs). But if you keep on this and you want to change it than go on and make the first steps and give us the elemantary possibility.
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