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Posted 02 August 2008 - 01:03 AM

Most of us actually are not fans of vulgarity- you just don't see us posting in topics like these. If you want to see what the majority of the people here think about the increase in vulgar language I suggest you read my topic in the suggestions forum. I've been trying to get the mods to ban people that completely take advantage of the mods leniency towards racist language.

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He is not looking bad, lol.


You're right but he thinks he is a gangster! Ew.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 02:05 AM

[QUOTE=dokhtare pulegun;12712]Most of us actually are not fans of vulgarity- you just don't see us posting in topics like these. If you want to see what the majority of the people here think about the increase in vulgar language I suggest you read my topic in the suggestions forum. I've been trying to get the mods to ban people that completely take advantage of the mods leniency towards racist language.



You're right but he thinks he is a gangster! Ew.[/QUOTE]

There are around 10 active members in here and atleast 4/5 of them use vulgar language. Just because they are anti-pashtons, the mods/admins are ignoring them.

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Like Turan Kakar, we have a lot of emotional guys in this forum too. Take a look at Paristani and TajMahal. Setting behind a computer screen and talking about killing Pedram or Afghan Mellati pashtons.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=Ghorzang;12713]There are around 10 active members in here and atleast 4/5 of them use vulgar language. Just because they are anti-pashtons, the mods/admins are ignoring them.

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Like Turan Kakar, we have a lot of emotional guys in this forum too. Take a look at Paristani and TajMahal. Setting behind a computer screen and talking about killing Pedram or Afghan Mellati pashtons.[/QUOTE]

Haiwan hound, like me there are thousands and millions that will kill you. You have forgotten how Uzbeks cleansed the north from you donkies? You Bastards should be happy we are not like them otherwise the streets of Kabul, Herat, Farah, Mazar ect. will be full of dirty pig blood. But it will come true, just wait.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 03:21 PM

[quote=Parsistani;12727]Haiwan hound, like me there are thousands and millions that will kill you. You have forgotten how Uzbeks cleansed the north from you donkies? You Bastards should be happy we are not like them otherwise the streets of Kabul, Herat, Farah, Mazar ect. will be full of dirty pig blood. But it will come true, just wait.[/quote]

wuhahahaha masterfully!
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 03:24 PM

[quote=Ghorzang;12711]Now, you are a true son of Pedram. All you can do is use vulgar language. So this is the type of people that are going to be the defender and guardians of Khorasan zameen. Worst than that, people like you call us pashtons uncivilized tribals.

PS: I was banned for no reason, but when some of these members are swearing and using vulgar language in half of their posts, they are still roaming around freely. How can you guys fight for democracy in the land of Afghans, when you don't have democracy at your forum?
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Who banned you? :s I must admit, that its not fir to do things like that. Everyone has freedom of speache. So admins, please let everyone talk freely.
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Posted 02 August 2008 - 07:32 PM

:D :D:D

Is this guy Turan Kakar real? He looks like ''Mulli'' or ''Bdrang''. :D Where are his shoulders?

Latif Pedram is indeed a complete idiot. He, as a well-known politician and a thorn in the eye of Pashtunists, how can he insult someone in the public? Even if he has said the truth about Amanullah Khan and his nationalistic offences and policy, he had no right to talk about him in such a manner. With his naiv act he has deceived and deprived us of our rights and goals. I would expect something like that from a man with a trivial status or from a child.
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=Khurasanzad;12750] :D :D:D

Is this guy Turan Kakar real? He looks like ''Mulli'' or ''Bdrang''. :D Where are his shoulders?

Latif Pedram is indeed a complete idiot. He, as a well-known politician and a thorn in the eye of Pashtunists, how can he insult someone in the public? Even if he has said the truth about Amanullah Khan and his nationalistic offences and policy, he had no right to talk about him in such a manner. With his naiv act he has deceived and deprived us of our rights and goals. I would expect something like that from a man with a trivial status or from a child.[/QUOTE]

Khurasanzad,

Dont be so naive to accept lies and propagations of Awghans. They forged the voice, and the sound system to make up that clip which is circulating on youtube and other places, the intention is obvious, to discredit Dr.Pedram. By showing Dr.Pedram using vulgarity an profanity, they take the attention off of Dr.Pedram's just call for equality, justice and true democracy. Awghans would act in any sinister way and take any malicious measures to destory the reputations of Dr.Pedram because he is the only one in Kabul so far who openly condemns the foreign occupation, and the running dogs of foreign occupation, the fascist awghan mellat or the so called technocrats.

Watch this clip where Bush says United States is a criminal state, see how real it sounds yet its forged just like the voice of Dr.Pedram.


http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 09:39 AM

[QUOTE=Khorasanpur;12772]Khurasanzad,

Dont be so naive to accept lies and propagations of Awghans. They forged the voice, and the sound system to make up that clip which is circulating on youtube and other places, the intention is obvious, to discredit Dr.Pedram. By showing Dr.Pedram using vulgarity an profanity, they take the attention off of Dr.Pedram's just call for equality, justice and true democracy. Awghans would act in any sinister way and take any malicious measures to destory the reputations of Dr.Pedram because he is the only one in Kabul so far who openly condemns the foreign occupation, and the running dogs of foreign occupation, the fascist awghan mellat or the so called technocrats.

Watch this clip where Bush says United States is a criminal state, see how real it sounds yet its forged just like the voice of Dr.Pedram.


http://www.youtube.c...feature=related[/QUOTE]

If it is so than why does he hide himself? Why dont he make a step to the public and clear everything? If it is possible to copy his voice and modify than he do not need to be scared like a child.
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 09:41 AM

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Posted 03 August 2008 - 09:51 AM

We need to bang them from everyside. Sitara e Shab ra dar Zob bibinand. You guys who are more active on Paltalk and on other portals you could use all these tools for our own goal and weapons against these evil creatures.
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 10:24 AM

[QUOTE=Khurasanzad;12773]If it is so than why does he hide himself? Why dont he make a step to the public and clear everything? If it is possible to copy his voice and modify than he do not need to be scared like a child.[/QUOTE]

Dear Khurasanzad jan,

For the past few months Dr.Pedram is put under unlawful house arrest by the attorney general, Jabar Sabit. Attorney general Sabit considered Dr.Pedram a witness or an accomplice of Dustom in the incident with Akbar Baay without any proof or evidence. Some of the human rights groups asked for removal of this illegal house arrest, but it was ignored by Sabit and the gov. Now, Pedram cant leave his residence since its surrounded by the interior ministry's guards and they dont allow visitors and journalists to meet with him in person. After the circulation of the forged clip, Pedram's deputy, Behzan, called for a press conference in Kabul, and stated that the sound is forged and it was made by our adversaries who want to diverge the public attention from the political issues to personal ones. Pedram himself had an interview via phone with Freshta Hazrati, he reaffirmed his deputy's statment on the interview. You can listen to the interview on www.khawaran.com ... As I said before Government has placed a limitation on his movement and visitation by others since the past Feb. Now, I didnt get your point, what do you mean he is hiding? Do you have any suggestions on what he should do?

There is this advocacy group which wanted to send a letter to UN, EU, and NATO to put pressure on Karzai's regime to remove the ban on Pedram's movement.
http://afghanistan-c...er-house-arrest
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=Ahhangar;12694]That is what I mean. He should admit in public that he used that foul language - and be a man about it. The scumbags on Paltalk that allowed this to be recorded and then released onto the internet should be the focus for tracking enemies of Tajiks.

I suspect that Pidram was invited into a private room - not open to the public in Paltalk - and then encouraged in the talks to become emotional - and recorded. I think it was done by people whom regularly pretend that they are Tajiks on Paltalk when infact they are not Tajiks - but the enemy of Tajiks - whom want to misuse Tajiks for their own anti Tajik cause.

Pidram is indeed stupid for falling into this trap - he should be a man about it.

Ahhangar[/QUOTE]

Now i know why he only got 1.4% of vote in general election. How can a leader of a political party be that stupid to do or say such a thing, no matter if he trusted those guys or not. Besides that, what the hell was he doing in such a vulgar place like paltalk? he is supposed to be doing more important things rather going to paltalk and making discussion with people.
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 11:42 AM

Dear Unity,

Are you for unity among Pashtuns? or, unity among pashtuns and only those people in Afghanistan who consider themselves Afghans and take pride in Afghan history and Afghanland which was founded by Loy Ahmad Shah Baba?
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=Khorasanpur;12783]Dear Unity,

Are you for unity among Pashtuns? or, unity among pashtuns and only those people in Afghanistan who consider themselves Afghans and take pride in Afghan history and Afghanland which was founded by Loy Ahmad Shah Baba?[/QUOTE]

Afghanistan was created by British not by Ahmad Abdali. He was a slave of Khurasanian Shah Nader Afshar. He called himself as ''Amir e Khorasan'', like his followers. Abdurrahman is actually the father of Afghanistan. Ahmad Abdali is ony the the reasons beginning for all misery that Khorasan had faced, faces and will face solong these ''Chaharpaya Ghulams'' and their foreign masters are in power.
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 12:16 PM

dear friends,

There are some active Awghan elements who want to manipulate public opinion on the net.Their brothers in Khost and Paktia put a 200 thousand dollars bounty to eliminate Pedram physically by terror and assassination. However , the Awghans on the net want to give Dr.Pedram a negative image by assassinating his character. The same Awghan elements want to mislead our Tajik friends on this forum about Dr.Pedram and the Awghan Melat conspiracy against him. As I see some uninformed and Gosfandi Tajiks already following their leads by making irresponsible comments about Dr.Pedram, without having the slightest clue about the actual situation. Those of you who can read Parsi in Perso-Arabic script can visit www.khawaran.com , there are dozens of articles about Dr.Pedram and the Awghan mellat conspiracy to discredit him. Please read those articles... they are written by educated and well informed Tajiks who have a better grip of the situation than most of us on this forum. So read them and then have your say in here when you are fully informed about the whole thing.
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=Parsistani;12784]Afghanistan was created by British not by Ahmad Abdali. He was a slave of Khurasanian Shah Nader Afshar. He called himself as ''Amir e Khorasan'', like his followers. Abdurrahman is actually the father of Afghanistan. Ahmad Abdali is ony the the reasons beginning for all misery that Khorasan had faced, faces and will face solong these ''Chaharpaya Ghulams'' and their foreign masters are in power.[/QUOTE]

Parsistani jan,

I know our history--my post was addressed to "unity" so I will wait to get a reply from him.
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=Khorasanpur;12787]dear friends,

There are some Awghan elements who want to mislead our Tajiks friends on this forum about Dr.Pedram and the Awghan Melat conspiracy against him. As I see some uninformed and Gosfandi Tajiks already following their leads by making irresponsible comments about Dr.Pedram, without having the slightest clue about the actual situation. Those of you who can read Parsi in Perso-Arabic script can visit www.khawaran.com , there are dozens of articles about Dr.Pedram and the Awghan mellat conspiracy to discredit him. Please read those articles... they are written by educated and well informed Tajiks who have a better grip of the situation than most of us on this forum. So read them and then have your say in here when you are fully informed about the whole thing.[/QUOTE]

Good articles I have to say. We need them all here and we have to spread them all over the Net. I like this one

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http://www.khawaran....arAzKalemat.htm
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=Khorasanpur;12783]Dear Unity,

Are you for unity among Pashtuns? or, unity among pashtuns and only those people in Afghanistan who consider themselves Afghans and take pride in Afghan history and Afghanland which was founded by Loy Ahmad Shah Baba?[/QUOTE]

Dear Khorasanpur,

First i want to know what prompted you to ask me this question. Once I know the reason i will answer this irrelevant question.
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Posted 04 August 2008 - 10:18 AM

I don't see here any vulgar word on speech of Latif Pedram. He speaks about Amanallakhan-e padarla'nat. And I am agree with him - Amanullah was pashtun shauvinist padarla'nat.

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 11:04 AM

[QUOTE=Afrasiab;12827]I don't see here any vulgar word on speech of Latif Pedram. He speaks about Amanallakhan-e padarla'nat. And I am agree with him - Amanullah was pashtun shauvinist padarla'nat.
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Well, perhaps for ordinary people like you and me it will be OK, but for the head of a political party it is not, especially when he wants to fight for justice. It will only discredit us and make us look ridiculous and as a result no one will take us and our claims serious.
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