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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:44 AM

Today Pashtuns mostly have a fascist ethno centric mentality.

How do we change things and get rid of Pashtun chauvinism?

Lets look at the biggest fascist states in modern history and their change.

Nazi Germany suffered a crippling defeat and today they are the most peace loving country in the world.

Same with Japan.

Soviet Russia suffered a crippling economic defeat and today they have changed dramatically.

Many political scientists believe this theory.


Same thing is what Pashtuns need. Pashtuns need a devastating defeat. It does not need to be militarily but could be. It can also be politically, economically, culturally, etc.

Once Pashtuns suffer this defeat, they will be changed and become a peace loving people and more reasonable and this will be good for us and good for them too. It will be good for the whole region and the world.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 06:09 AM

I think the defeat should be politically and with knowledge.

1) All Tajiks need rally under 1 leader and not vote for a single Pashtun in future elections.

2) Tajiks need to give Pashtuns the facts, that we are the natives of the land and they are migrants to our lands. They were invaders to our land. We have the facts behind us. We need to give these facts to Pashtuns and they will be defeated. Then they will become more humble.



These are the best two and easiest ways to defeat Pashtuns.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 07:17 AM

Yes, we are not strong politically, in terms of economics and we also need to look at things culturally. Education is another thing which we need to do something urgently and work on it very hard. I agree with your posts.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 07:22 AM

Unity among the Tajiks is the key to success, if we have strong unity, we can easily have unity with Hazaras and Uzbeks and it will make it easier to overcome our common opponent. But if we are not one block and toghether, even the Hazars and Uzbeks wont take us serious, becasue nothing can be done with an army of disarayed people who dont know what they want and where they go.

When it comes to unity, Tajiks are the only group that lacks it. Hazaras and Uzbeks are doing alot better than us, especially the Hazaras.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 03:10 PM

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Today Pashtuns mostly have a fascist ethno centric mentality.

How do we change things and get rid of Pashtun chauvinism?

Lets look at the biggest fascist states in modern history and their change.

Nazi Germany suffered a crippling defeat and today they are the most peace loving country in the world.

Same with Japan.

Soviet Russia suffered a crippling economic defeat and today they have changed dramatically.

Many political scientists believe this theory.


Same thing is what Pashtuns need. Pashtuns need a devastating defeat. It does not need to be militarily but could be. It can also be politically, economically, culturally, etc.

Once Pashtuns suffer this defeat, they will be changed and become a peace loving people and more reasonable and this will be good for us and good for them too. It will be good for the whole region and the world.


Dear Kamyar,

I think it is a big mistake to equate these barking fascist dogs with Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan. These barking dogs are a bunch of low lives whom are inflated thanks to their foreign support. Any thorough look at their foundations - and basis for function - it becomes quickly obvious that these low lives are just hot air.

The concept of the 'Afghan' state is a creation that served both Imperial Russia's and Imperial Britain's purposes - and continues to serve their interest today. It was these same powers that smashed Japan and Germany as their main rivals in the world. It was these powers that erased the Persian cultural and language identity of the India and Central Asia.

The main problem is not these running dogs of the RUSS and BRITISH - in my view the main problem is the lack of Tajik unity to counter these miscreants. We need to realize the potential of our culture and history - a culture which was and is for the benefit of all peoples - not just Tajiks.

By the way -there are quite a few Pashtuns whom realize the tragedy bring heaped upon the Pashtun peoples of the area in the name of nationalistic tribalism in Afghanistan and Islam in Pakistan -and how the British - and Russians have used and abused the peoples -but these peoples are not that apparent in the public sphere since they are not backed by these powers and thus not inflated artificially. So - it is not a good idea to blame all Pashtuns as a people - that is a big mistake - and will not get us anywhere.

Today Afghan Mellat is funded directly by the World Bank! The Afghan currency - which the most powerful tool of war against our peoples is again propped up by the US through Wold Bank. We need to find out how we can change these policies of the world powers or to counter them.

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 05:58 PM

I agree with Ahhangar's evalutation of the situation completely. As i said before in another post the problem is how to make the people realize that they are just pawns in some body else's game. Although the super powers are on the their side for the moment, it might not remain the same for ever and these same super powers will come crushing on them when it suits their intrests. The aim should be to educate these people with true information and teach them self appriciation.
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Posted 16 August 2008 - 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=shinno;12953]I agree with Ahhangar's evalutation of the situation completely. As i said before in another post the problem is how to make the people realize that they are just pawns in some body else's game. Although the super powers are on the their side for the moment, it might not remain the same for ever and these same super powers will come crushing on them when it suits their intrests. The aim should be to educate these people with true information and teach them self appriciation.[/QUOTE]

This is not true. There wont be unity, never. Why are you dreaming? Have you forgotten the unity in the last two centuries? This shinno is a real awghanmellati dog who try to fool us here only to be succes in their own movement. Its the nature of Pakhtanos to be wild, cultureless, dogs, Ghulams of other. If all the black periode is cause by others, except the Pigtun dogs than explain me what did Pashaitans so succesfully when colonialists didnt exist? NOTHING!! THEY WERE ALSO ON THOSE DAYSN WILD BARBARIAN DOGS. Every nation knew you and called you dogs, donkies. Even your own men. Dont try to fool other. Your dirty name was even an insult for other as turk was an insult for your saljuk and ottoman fathers. For Mughals, the word Awghan meaned a dog, someone without honour, pride, a dirty kuchi that was always allied with bedouine Arabs and other kuchi extremist groups like roshanis of india and pakistan. You know ''Afghan Khan''? He was a Persian, once the best friend of the Mughal caeser and hero of them because he killed a tiger with his hands and where known as sher shah but when he had an affair with the mughal queen or princes the mughals called him afghan khan. Ever read history? Your culture was always killing (poor khorasanian caravans), raping,destruction, homosexuality, beeing thiefs....etc...and on those older days neither GB nor russians or americans did exist in your countries. Dont try to fool other. Pashtun e Harami, Arabzai.

You bastards should thank Mughals 10000000 times that they kiddnapped some of your dogs and teached them to be humen otherwise not even 1% of you would be today alife.
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Posted 16 August 2008 - 07:42 PM

THERE SHOULD BE UNITY AMONG THE HONORABLE TAJIK NATION OTHERWISE WE WILL BE CRUSHED! AND LET IT BE CLEAR, WE WILL NEVER BE CRUSHED!!! if Pakhtuns think they will remain their position in Afghanistan like it is now then they are totally wrong, they have absolutely nothing to be proud!

I am sorry to say this:

FIRST WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THOSE FAKE TAJIKS WHO ARE LITERARLY COOPERATING WITH PAKHTUNS!!! WHEN CAN ONLY ACHIEVE THAT WHEN WE HAVE UNITY!
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Posted 17 August 2008 - 07:16 AM

[quote=Ariaie-kabulzadah;13522]

I am sorry to say this:

FIRST WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THOSE FAKE TAJIKS WHO ARE LITERARLY COOPERATING WITH PAKHTUNS!!! WHEN CAN ONLY ACHIEVE THAT WHEN WE HAVE UNITY![/quote]
No, dont be sorry for sayin that!....Because you say the right thing! :)

There are even some...who claim to be Tajik....but work AGAINST us! haha.
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