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Afghanistan win first ever Olympic medal
#22
Posted 21 August 2008 - 06:58 AM
[QUOTE=Rostam;13770]Please remove this topic!
Why should we place on our forum...that Afghanistan....has won a medaille?
Afghanistan is for us TAJIKS same....as Sudan, Ethiopia, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Sierra Leona, Algeria etc.
Shinno will you in future not open this kind topics???
There are MANY sites on web....with title AFGHAN....where you can announce and celebrate this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ariaie-kabulzadah;13791]I REALLY hate the name Afghan and Afghanistan!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Can the both of you please stay on topic. This thread is here to inform others of how well an AFGHAN athlete has performed.
Congratulations to Nikpai! He's done AFGHANS proud!
Why should we place on our forum...that Afghanistan....has won a medaille?
Afghanistan is for us TAJIKS same....as Sudan, Ethiopia, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Sierra Leona, Algeria etc.
Shinno will you in future not open this kind topics???
There are MANY sites on web....with title AFGHAN....where you can announce and celebrate this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ariaie-kabulzadah;13791]I REALLY hate the name Afghan and Afghanistan!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Can the both of you please stay on topic. This thread is here to inform others of how well an AFGHAN athlete has performed.
Congratulations to Nikpai! He's done AFGHANS proud!
#26
Posted 21 August 2008 - 07:48 AM
Yes I'm well aware of the origins of the word Afghan and how it was once synonymous with Pashtuns. It is now a word used by everyone with a heritage from Afghanistan.
I do not introduce myself as a Tajik because I don't want people thinking I'm from Tajikistan. I tell people I am Afghan, and then specify when I get asked to.
I do not introduce myself as a Tajik because I don't want people thinking I'm from Tajikistan. I tell people I am Afghan, and then specify when I get asked to.
#27
Posted 21 August 2008 - 07:54 AM
Maybe you would like to introduce yourself as a "Tajik from Afghanistan"? What do you think? If you feel uncomfortable with answering to this question, please feel free to pass. I am against racist posts and sarcasm, so please don't get me wrong. Thank you for your reply.
Pors.
[quote=Lindt;13828]Yes I'm well aware of the origins of the word Afghan and how it was once synonymous with Pashtuns. It is now a word used by everyone with a heritage from Afghanistan.
I do not introduce myself as a Tajik because I don't want people thinking I'm from Tajikistan. I tell people I am Afghan, and then specify when I get asked to.[/quote]
Pors.
[quote=Lindt;13828]Yes I'm well aware of the origins of the word Afghan and how it was once synonymous with Pashtuns. It is now a word used by everyone with a heritage from Afghanistan.
I do not introduce myself as a Tajik because I don't want people thinking I'm from Tajikistan. I tell people I am Afghan, and then specify when I get asked to.[/quote]
#28
Posted 21 August 2008 - 08:04 AM
[QUOTE=PORS;13830]Maybe you would like to introduce yourself as a "Tajik from Afghanistan"? What do you think? If you feel uncomfortable with answering to this question, please feel free to pass. I am against racist posts and sarcasm, so please don't get me wrong. Thank you for your reply.
Pors.[/QUOTE]
Pors jaan,
It honestly makes no difference if I say I'm a Tajik from Afghanistan if people do not know much about Afghanistan or its people. Instead of division, I believe in unity - and that doesn't work when people constantly mention their ethnic group. (in my opinion anyway) Nowadays, the term Afghan encompasses ALL people from Afghanistan.
Pors.[/QUOTE]
Pors jaan,
It honestly makes no difference if I say I'm a Tajik from Afghanistan if people do not know much about Afghanistan or its people. Instead of division, I believe in unity - and that doesn't work when people constantly mention their ethnic group. (in my opinion anyway) Nowadays, the term Afghan encompasses ALL people from Afghanistan.
#31
Posted 21 August 2008 - 08:12 AM
Lindt-jan,
I completely understand your views and feelings regarding this topic. I was just curious and did not have any intention to be ethnocentric. I respect your opinion and and value the way you are. So, thanks for share and looking forward for your open-minded, wise questions and answers.
Pors.
[quote=Lindt;13836]Pors jaan,
It honestly makes no difference if I say I'm a Tajik from Afghanistan if people do not know much about Afghanistan or its people. Instead of division, I believe in unity - and that doesn't work when people constantly mention their ethnic group. (in my opinion anyway) Nowadays, the term Afghan encompasses ALL people from Afghanistan.[/quote]
I completely understand your views and feelings regarding this topic. I was just curious and did not have any intention to be ethnocentric. I respect your opinion and and value the way you are. So, thanks for share and looking forward for your open-minded, wise questions and answers.
Pors.
[quote=Lindt;13836]Pors jaan,
It honestly makes no difference if I say I'm a Tajik from Afghanistan if people do not know much about Afghanistan or its people. Instead of division, I believe in unity - and that doesn't work when people constantly mention their ethnic group. (in my opinion anyway) Nowadays, the term Afghan encompasses ALL people from Afghanistan.[/quote]
#35
Posted 21 August 2008 - 08:44 AM
[QUOTE=Lindt;13846]Unity, i am not denying anything. I am a Tajik, yes. But I'm also Afghan.
Afghan isn't a dirty word... I don't know why others on this forum haven't come to terms with their Afghan identity.[/QUOTE]
Well, but you clearly denyed your Tajikness in your previous posts, and called anyone who associates himself as tajik to only Tajikistan!! I am totally against harsh words against the term Afghan or abusive language toward anyone.
Afghan isn't a dirty word... I don't know why others on this forum haven't come to terms with their Afghan identity.[/QUOTE]
Well, but you clearly denyed your Tajikness in your previous posts, and called anyone who associates himself as tajik to only Tajikistan!! I am totally against harsh words against the term Afghan or abusive language toward anyone.
#37
Posted 21 August 2008 - 09:39 AM
Unity:
If I tell someone I am Uzbek they will think i am from Uzbekistan.
If I tell someone I am Chinese they will think I am from China.
These are just examples btw. Chinese and Uzbeks do live outside of both Uzbekistan and China, but most people don't know that.
[QUOTE=Farangis;13851]With other words, i am a Tajik but i represent myself as an Afghan=Pashtoon.
Correct me if i am wrong
[/QUOTE]
lol Farangis... To MOST people, Afghan = anyone from Afghanistan. All my Afghan friends, whether they are Pashtun, Tajik or Hazara (cos they're the only ethnic groups from Afghanistan i've ever met!) call themselves AFGHANS. My Pashtun friends call me AFGHAN. Between us, there is none of this "I'm Pashtun" or "I'm Tajik" nonsense. We all have ancestry from the same land and we're just content to know that we share something.
If I tell someone I am Uzbek they will think i am from Uzbekistan.
If I tell someone I am Chinese they will think I am from China.
These are just examples btw. Chinese and Uzbeks do live outside of both Uzbekistan and China, but most people don't know that.
[QUOTE=Farangis;13851]With other words, i am a Tajik but i represent myself as an Afghan=Pashtoon.


lol Farangis... To MOST people, Afghan = anyone from Afghanistan. All my Afghan friends, whether they are Pashtun, Tajik or Hazara (cos they're the only ethnic groups from Afghanistan i've ever met!) call themselves AFGHANS. My Pashtun friends call me AFGHAN. Between us, there is none of this "I'm Pashtun" or "I'm Tajik" nonsense. We all have ancestry from the same land and we're just content to know that we share something.
#38
Posted 21 August 2008 - 12:17 PM
[quote=Lindt;13854]Unity:
lol Farangis... To MOST people, Afghan = anyone from Afghanistan. All my Afghan friends, whether they are Pashtun, Tajik or Hazara (cos they're the only ethnic groups from Afghanistan i've ever met!) call themselves AFGHANS. My Pashtun friends call me AFGHAN. Between us, there is none of this "I'm Pashtun" or "I'm Tajik" nonsense. We all have ancestry from the same land and we're just content to know that we share something.[/quote]
omg..
lol Farangis... To MOST people, Afghan = anyone from Afghanistan. All my Afghan friends, whether they are Pashtun, Tajik or Hazara (cos they're the only ethnic groups from Afghanistan i've ever met!) call themselves AFGHANS. My Pashtun friends call me AFGHAN. Between us, there is none of this "I'm Pashtun" or "I'm Tajik" nonsense. We all have ancestry from the same land and we're just content to know that we share something.[/quote]
omg..



#39
Posted 21 August 2008 - 05:43 PM
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Unity, i am not denying anything. I am a Tajik, yes. But I'm also Afghan.
You are not Tajik neither Afghan.......You are a motha**** analphabet *****!
Get the hell out of here!

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lol Farangis... To MOST people
We dont consider them as people.....
for us they are the same ****** bastard as you are!
#40
Posted 21 August 2008 - 05:48 PM
This is not oke.....we should not be happy......if a Hazara or Tajik.......does something in name of AFGHANISTAN!
Death to traitor Nikpai!
I will never fight or play under the flag of Afghanistan!!!
If I was...great sportman....I would have played on olympics under flag of Tajikistan or Iran.....or even China.....But never Afghanistan!
Death to traitor Nikpai!
I will never fight or play under the flag of Afghanistan!!!
If I was...great sportman....I would have played on olympics under flag of Tajikistan or Iran.....or even China.....But never Afghanistan!