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Posted 10 October 2009 - 02:59 AM

Disscus about our probelms and how we can solove them togather.....
Our duties as young Khorasani???
How we can prove ourselves(Hazara,Uzbek and Tajik) as the builders of Khorasan Zameen(now Afghanistan) ??? ?
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 05:42 AM

View PostUnited Hazara Uzbek Tajik, on 10 October 2009 - 02:59 AM, said:

Disscus about our probelms and how we can solove them togather.....
Our duties as young Khorasani???
How we can prove ourselves(Hazara,Uzbek and Tajik) as the builders of Khorasan Zameen(now Afghanistan) ??? ?
Long Life All Dari Zaban

I think this is the golden time for our unity to ignore all the happenenings of past(what ever each ethincs have done to each other) and open a new chapter with new activities if we involve ourselves in matters like Tajik killed Hazara or Hazara killed Tajik or Uzbek and vice versa then we will absolutly remain at the bottom and get nothing except with wasting our time with empty output result so there is no doubt that our common enemy pashatins(who want to pashtonized the country) in the form of Pashatins Racest Hammid Kharzai achieve their aim.
we have seen in the past few years that the KHARZAI Government have been involved much to dismoral the Dari(Persian) Zaban, the most familiar case is the dismissal of the Dari speakers(writers & analyist) from their job By Pashton Minister for only this reason that they were simply used the term DANISHGAH instead of PAHANTHON for UNIVERSITY in their magzine. IS THIS FAIR???
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Posted 10 October 2009 - 12:40 PM

Great Topic. Nice to have people who think for such these topics and seeking ways to catch the success.

I think our first and important problem is that we don't have the correct and forced relations inside. We are not united. This may not be seen much outside Afghanistan, but inside, it is a big problem.

For now, in Afghanistan, when you say Tajik; it is known az Shamali wal and Panjsheri. It may has two reason; one; that we have real Tajiks from those area and the second is that, someone who they are afraid of our being one and our unity, spread this idea. The idea, that everyone is Afghan. Want to hide Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara etc under the name of Afghan. Want to change the Centuries with years. Want to make our great history 250 years old...
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 06:57 AM

View PostKhurasani, on 10 October 2009 - 12:40 PM, said:

Great Topic. Nice to have people who think for such these topics and seeking ways to catch the success.

I think our first and important problem is that we don't have the correct and forced relations inside. We are not united. This may not be seen much outside Afghanistan, but inside, it is a big problem.

For now, in Afghanistan, when you say Tajik; it is known az Shamali wal and Panjsheri. It may has two reason; one; that we have real Tajiks from those area and the second is that, someone who they are afraid of our being one and our unity, spread this idea. The idea, that everyone is Afghan. Want to hide Tajik, Uzbek, Hazara etc under the name of Afghan. Want to change the Centuries with years. Want to make our great history 250 years old...

I totally agree with you, that the Hazaras and Tajik are both facing such a common internal problem and the reasons of all these kind of problems are dated back to and attached to the 250 years of kingdom of savage pashatins. these savage pashatins(who even killed their brothers for being king) captured and tortured the non pahatins land and place the pashatins by force in out lands.from that day this problem is continued yet.
so why we accept pashatins like king in the modren time in Afghanistan which is totally democrated state instead of a kingdomized state? ??? ?
why all over the world every country see afghanistan as a pashton state while here about 70% to 80% are Dari zaban(persian speakers) i.e Hazara,Uzbek and Tajik etc etc.... ??? ? ???
why the president must be a pashatins? ??? ??
we demand RIGHTS MUST BE EQUALLY DISTRIBUT IN AFGHANISTAN AMONG ALL ETHINCS and IT IS NOT A PASHATINS STATE it is a MULTY NATIONS STATE.
and for this aim we all Hazaras,Uzbek and Tajik are united.
and the new generation of KHORASAN ZAMEEN(Hazara,Uzbek and Tajik) will solve all problems like these ,with their abilities and talent and will fight for their rights[i].WE NEVER ACCEPT A KING IN A DEMOCRATIC AFGHANISTAN!!!!!!!!!!![/i]
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 08:46 AM

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همایش دانشجویان در برابر پارلمان افغانستان

دهها تن از دانشجویان دانشگاه کابل در همایشی در برابر ساختمان شورای ملی افغانستان، خواهان نصب تابلوی این دانشگاه به دو زبان فارسی و پشتو شدند.

کاربرد واژه های "دانشگاه و دانشکده" در افغانستان ظرف چند سال اخیر جنجالهای زیادی را در پی داشته است.

هفته گذشته نیز شماری از دانشجویان دانشگاه کابل برای نصب تابلوی این دانشگاه به سه زبان فارسی، پشتو و انگلیسی دو روز پی هم دست به تظاهرات زدند. اما ماموران پلیس مانع نصب تابلویی که از سوی این دانشجویان به سه زبان تهیه شده بود، شدند.

مسئولان دنشگاه کابل در این مورد از هر گونه ابراز نظری خودداری کردند و دانشجویان موضوع را با محمد اعظم دادفر، وزیر تحصیلات عالی افغانستان در میان گذاشتند.

دانشجویان پس از گفتگو با آقای دادفر و با اعلام این که وزیر تحصیلات عالی موضوع را در نشست شورای وزیران در میان می گذارد، به تظاهرات خود پایان دادند.

روز شنبه، ۵ قوس/آذر، باختر، خبرگزاری رسمی افغانستان گزارش داد که آقای دادفر جنجال دانشگاه و پوهنتون را در نشست شورای وزیران افغانستان مطرح کرد.

کابینه افغانستان حل این موضوع را به تصمیم گیری پارلمان این کشور موکول کرد و تاکید شد که از دانشجویان و استادان دانشگاهها خواسته شود که مسائل زبانی و فرهنگی را "سیاسی" نسازند.

بررسی؟

دانشجویان در همایش خود در برابر پارلمان تاکید کردند که اعضای پارلمان باید به این موضوع توجه کنند و به جنجال نصب تابلوی دانشگاه به هردو زبان فارسی و پشتو، پایان دهند.

شماری از نمایندگان پارلمان در برابر دانشجویان حاضر شدند و گفتند درخواست آنان را بررسی می کنند.

این در حالی است که اعضای پارلمان خود نیز از چند ماه پیش تا حال نتوانسته اند برسر واژه های "دانشگاه و پوهنتون" در تصویب قانون تحصیلات عالی به توافق برسند.

در پی بحث برسر قانون تحصیلات عالی در مجلس نمایندگان، هیات اداری مجلس تصمییم گرفت این قانون تا زمان تشکیل کمیسیون نظارت و تفسیر قانون اساسی از بحثهای مجلس خارج شود.

یک نماینده پارلمان افغانستان گفت بر اساس قانون، این کمیسیون به دستور رئیس جمهوری و تایید پارلمان تشکیل می شود.

پیش از این دانشجویان دانشگاه بلخ در شمال افغانستان با راه اندازی تظاهراتی درخواست مشابهی را مطرح کردند، اما نصب تابلوی این دانشگاه به زبانهای فارسی و پشتو منجر به درگیری میان دانشجویان و ماموران پلیس شد.

جنجال در بلخ با تصمیم گیری مقامات محلی مبنی بر نصب تابلوی جدیدی به زبانهای فارسی، پشتو و انگلیسی به پایان رسید. چهارشنبه 26 نوامبر 2008 - 06 آذر 1387 بی بی سی.
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Posted 14 October 2009 - 10:25 AM

our responsibility is to save what we got & try to be the most stable people in the entire country. once we done it then it 'll become much easier for us to set up our own rules & through education we could raise loads of support in action for demaning equal rights. so education is very important, for every single one of us
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Posted 14 October 2009 - 12:05 PM

View Postshabir, on 14 October 2009 - 11:25 AM, said:

our responsibility is to save what we got & try to be the most stable people in the entire country. once we done it then it 'll become much easier for us to set up our own rules & through education we could raise loads of support in action for demaning equal rights. so education is very important, for every single one of us


100% agree.

Education is needed as much as water for human in Afghanistan.

and answer for your question of why there is still a Pashtun president in Afghanistan is : That they are servants for foreigners. There is almost no Pashtun President in Afghanistan that come to power with people's vote. They all come and role us by foreign forces and they were supported because of their highly respect to foreigners. You cannot see this dirty feature in Tajiks and Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmens etc.
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Posted 14 October 2009 - 12:27 PM

View Postshabir, on 14 October 2009 - 10:25 AM, said:

our responsibility is to save what we got & try to be the most stable people in the entire country. once we done it then it 'll become much easier for us to set up our own rules & through education we could raise loads of support in action for demaning equal rights. so education is very important, for every single one of us

No doubt, education is like a back bone for a nation. we all are agree without knoledge no one can face the challenges of this modern world but i want to add another important thing along this education, and it is the KNOWLEDGE OF THE REGIONAL POLITICS.
that what are our(Hazara,Uzbek and Tajik) needs and how we can approve or present condition with in the present time frame and in the coming time.
with the knowledge of the POLITICS we will be failed as we(Hazara,Uzbek and Tajik) were in the past.
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Posted 16 October 2009 - 11:16 AM

View PostKhurasani, on 14 October 2009 - 12:05 PM, said:

100% agree.

Education is needed as much as water for human in Afghanistan.

and answer for your question of why there is still a Pashtun president in Afghanistan is : That they are servants for foreigners. There is almost no Pashtun President in Afghanistan that come to power with people's vote. They all come and role us by foreign forces and they were supported because of their highly respect to foreigners. You cannot see this dirty feature in Tajiks and Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmens etc.

I think its also safe to say we tajiks were careless & 'cause our situations werent cruel we never cared who's the leader & who isnt. if we had fought from the very beginning then atleast to some extend we might had been independent & standing on our own feet
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