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Posted 22 October 2010 - 05:58 AM

Stumbled into this Sufi who had unusual ideas for his time and some speculation about his Urmuri origins

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Pir_Roshan

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Bayazid Khan (Barak/Urmar/Burki) --popularly known as Pir Roshan—became known for his thinking with its strong Sufi influences, radical for the times and unusual for the region. Pir Roshan was an advocate for learning and equal treatment for women. Roshanniya Movement (or Illuminati) is the set of teachings of Pir Roshan which his people followed. The movement had one focal teaching; equality of every man and woman. This included the idea that based on birth no one could become a religious leader or King. These titles are to be earned in one's life through hard work alone.

Bayazid Khan belonged to the Burki tribe and was an Urmar. Urmar/Burki of Kaniguram retain a keen desire to self segregate from the outside world by retaining strong kinship ties. Family narratives passed down vary on the origins of their forebears. One opinion however, is that their origins are Kurdish from an area know as Uromiyeh in Western Iran. Captain Leech[2] is the first person who has given some detailed notes on the Baraki Barak (Logar) dialect of the Ormuri language. He collected quite a few words and sentences and published them in "The Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal"[3] under the name of "A Vocabulary of the Baraki language". While introducing the tribe and its language, he says: "The Barakis are included in the general term of Parsiwan, or Tajak; they are original inhabitants of Yemen whence they were brought by Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni;
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Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:02 PM

I have been to Baraki of Logar, most of the peoople are persian speakers with significant pashtoo speaker minority, they are good people, and relatively educated.
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 06:25 AM

View PostSohrab, on 22 October 2010 - 08:02 PM, said:

I have been to Baraki of Logar, most of the peoople are persian speakers with significant pashtoo speaker minority, they are good people, and relatively educated.


That is fascinating ... Afghanistan is a country to be discovered anew ... I just hope the country will get back on its feet soon :)
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Posted 23 October 2010 - 08:50 AM

thanks bro.
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Posted 11 November 2010 - 07:42 PM

The Baraki Barak, or Ormurs, are native bi-lingual. The group that call themself as Baraki Barak speak a very old Persian dialect, called Sucha and the Ormurs, from whom the Baraki Baraks drives, speak Ormuri. The Ormurs were the last Zoroastrians in Khorasanzameen that survived the islamic wave even in the 15th century. These people, among other Ismaeli Persianspeaking Tajiks were once the original population of Kandahar and the local ''Rostamian'' ruler. Today, the are splitted by invasions of F***tuns throughout central Asia and can be find even in Peshawar. Their locations show us also that they once were much widespreaden than they live the region today. However, we shouldn´t be proud of Pir Roshan, the traitor of Persian civilization of Iran, Afghanistan and India. An arabized old man that not only used the wild barbarianzais against the great and civilized Moghals of India, but also brought with the Awghans destruction and weakness to Mughals that gave the Anglo Saxons the chance to take over India and colonize the entire region and bring instability. Today, we see Pir Roshan´s activity results in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka...Muslims vs Hindus, Pakis vs Indians, Iranians vs Indo-Aryans, Pashtuns vs Non-Pashtuns...
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