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Posted 21 November 2010 - 09:08 PM

حزب قومپرست افغان ملت در تلاش است تا با آتش زدن به خرمن زبانها زمینۀ تجزیۀ افغانستان و پاکستان را میسر سازد

یاد داشت مترجم:

مقالۀ قاضی حسین احمد، رهبر حزب جماعت اسلامی پاکستان، زیر عنوان "سازشی برای تجزیۀ امت اسلامی بر بنیاد های زبانی" در روزنامۀ پر تیراژ "جنگ" پاکستان و نیز وبسایت "اسلام تایمز" دو روز پیش از عید قربان به نشر رسیده است.

قاضی صاحب که از پشتونهای پاکستان است رابطۀ چنان تنگاتنگی با گلبدین حکمتیار داشت که عدۀ از هوا دارانش در زمان راکت پرانی بالای کابل مظلوم در سنگر های حکمتیار صف کشیده بودند

جالب اینکه مقالۀ دلسوزانۀ قاضی صاحب با پیام عیدی خیلی زنندۀ حکمتیار "برای ملت افغانستان" همزمان شده است (احتمالأ روی تصادف).

در حالیکه در نیت خیر مقالۀ قاضی نمیتوان تردید کرد، دوست بیقرار و اصلاح ناپذیرش یعنی حکمتیار در پیام خود از اقوام ازبک، تاجک و هزاره نامگرفته به زشتی یاد کرده و شیعیان - یا بگفتۀ او "روافض" - را در قطار منافقین، یهود و نصارا قرار داده است.
اینک ترجمۀ مقالۀ قاضی صاحب زیر عنوان "اُمت مسلمہ کو لسانی بنیادوں پر تقسیم کرنے کی سازش":

پیش از آمدن انگیسها به سرزمین هند، فارسی زبان رسمی و علم و ادب در آن نیم قاره بود. عدۀ از شعرای نامور زبان فارسی نیز از آن خطه سر بلند کرده اند

فارسی اهمیت علمی و فرهگی اش را بعد از تسلط انگلیسها بر هند برای مدتهای طولانی همچنان حفظ کرد. علامه اقبال، فیلسوف و شاعر نامور که هفتاد یا هشتاد سال قبل در نیم قارۀ هند بدنیا آمده بود از فارسی بعنوان وسیلۀ برای پخش پیام هایش به سایر مسلمانان استفاده میکرد. اگرچه نسل جوان پاکستانی از اشعار فارسی اقبال آگاهی چندانی ندارند، پیامهای اقبال یکی از عوامل بیداری در کشور های افغانستان، ایران و آسیای میانه بوده است.

برای پارچه پارچه نمودن مسلمانان، انگلیسها ابتدا دانشجویان مدارس رسمی را از فرا گرفتن زبان قرآن یعنی عربی محروم کردند و سپس انگلیسی را جایگزین فارسی نموده تا باشد رابطۀ مسلمانان هند را با دنیای وسیع فارسی زبان قطع نمایند.

فارسی از زمانه های باستان زبان رسمی، علمی و فرهنگی سرزمین افغانستان بوده و اکثر پشتونها هم به حاکمیت آن ارج میگزاشته و فقط به تکلم به زبان پشتو در محلات شان اکتفاء میکرده اند.

فارسی در صوبه سرحد (مناطق پشتون نشین پاکستان) نیز همیشه زبان علم و ادب بوده است. من تحصیلاتم را از خانه با زبان شیرین فارسی اغاز کردم. تمام نوشته ها و مکاتبات پدرم به فارسی بودند. اجداد من برای صد ها سال در قضاء کار میکردند و تمام اسناد باقیمانده از ایشان به زبان فارسی اند.

اروپاییان امپریالست پس از زبان عربی، زبان فارسی را هدف قرار داده تا مسلمانان را پارچه پارچه کنند. روی این ملحوظ حرکات قومگرایانۀ پشتونی را حمایت کرده تا میان پشتونها و فارسی زبانان درز ایجاد کنند

برای حفظ وحدت افغانستان، نادرشاه و پسرش ظاهر شاه که خود پشتون بودند نه تنها فارسی را زبان خانواده گی خویش بلکه آنرا بحیث زبان رسمی و تعلیمی کشور نیز پزیرفتند. از خانوادۀ سلطنتی عدۀ انگشت شماری هم به زبان پشتو روان حرف زده نمیتواند. و اکثر قبایل پشتون در ادبیات از فارسی بهره میگیرند.

قبل از هجموم روسها به خیوه و بخارا، فارسی زبان رسمی آن سرزمین ها بود. مردم ترکیه اکثرأ مسلط به زبان فارسی بودند. پیامهای مولانای روم بخاطری به فارسی بود که زبان رسمی آسیای مرکزی، ایران، خراسان (افغانستان) و هندوستان بود.

بعد از اضمحلال حکومت های خیوه و بخارا، به بهانۀ موجودیت لهجه های مختلف ترکی، روسها آسیای مرکزی را به کشور های ازبکستان، قزاقستان، ترکمنستان، قیرغیزستان و آزربایجان تجزیه نموده و روسی را جایگزین زبان فارسی نمودند.

اگر چه انشااله افغانستان تجزیه نخواهد شد ولی کوشش های فراوانی در جریان است تا تنش های زبانی را درین کشور تا حدی دامن زنند که همزیستی مسالمت آمیز میان فارسی زبانان و پشتونها ناممکن شود. حزب قومپرست افغان ملت در تلاش است تا با آتش زدن به خرمن زبانها زمینۀ تجزیۀ افغانستان و پاکستان را میسر سازد.

برای خنثی نمودن چنین تحرکاتی ما جنبش ضد جدایی طلبی را در هردو کشور به راه انداخته بودیم. با وجود موفقیت های آن جنبش، ولی بخاطر بیخردی زمامداران پاکستان اکثر مردم افغانستان حالا پاکستان را دشمن و هند را دوست تلقی میکنند.

حالا برای زمامدران پاکستانی لازم است تا در سیاست افغانی شان بازنگری جدی نموده تا نشود که این دو کشور با وجود اینهمه قربانیها بر بنیاد های زبانی تجزیه گردند. با داشتن دین، تاریخ و فرهنگ مشترک، مردمان ما میتوانند که یکدیگر را به آغوش کشیده و سد راه تجزیه شوند.



مترجم: محمد ناصح
http://www.jawedan.c...8-13&Itemid=575
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 12:30 AM

We must adopt a dual policy towards Afghan Mellat because only a dual policy can accomodate the dichotomy in the party's agenda.

One faction of Afghan Mellat aims to create a Pashtun homeland (Pashtunistan/Pakhtunkhwa); it aims to create a nation for the pashtuns of afghanistan and pakistan.
The other faction aims to create a Loy afghanistan which encompasses the current territory of the state of Afghanistan AND the Pashtun areas of Paksitan (there are some fringe elements which even aim to annex the baloch areas of pakistan- presumely in order to ensure pashtun access to open water)

We must ignore the first faction because, frankly, their agenda is a non-issue for us. If they get Pashtunistan, we get Khorasan; If they dont get pashtunistan, we maintain the status quo and i think the status quo is fair and perhaps even favorable.

The latter faction, on the other hand, must be fought and resisted to the last man. I do have faith in the resislience of Persian culture and I do believe that we have some of the best mardan-e-qalam and mardan-e-shamshir but i dont think we could survive in Loy Afghanistan in the long term.
An influx of 30 million pashtuns would be catastrophic.
I must remind you that the pakistani pashtuns dont have the persianized elite that the afghanistani pashtuns do and we cant expect them to show any sympathy for the preservation of persian culture.
The Pashtun areas of pakistan are also extremely overpopulated and so we must also heed the spectre of demographic colonization of the Persian areas of afghanistan by pakistani pashtun migrants.

In short, we ought to ignore the pashtunistanis and kill the loy afghanistanis.

PS. I just realized that there are also Afghan Mellatis who advocate for the Pashtunization of the areas within the current territorial expanse of the state of Afghanistan regardless of any union with the pashtun areas of pakistan. I am not sure that they can be considered to comprise a distinct faction.

Nonetheless, they must also be killed.
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

Bakhtiari Proverb
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 03:58 AM

Do you think that the Pashtuns in Afghanistan can bring in Pakistani Pashtuns to their side ? I doubt it, so based on that there is no danger to Tajiks in Afg. from Paki Pashtuns. A nuclear powered state like Pakistan is not going to let a few tribes destroy it, especially when it has fought so desperately against much powerful foes such as India. The Pashtuns of Afghanistan have no chance ... and it seems, from the little I know, that the Paki Pashtuns are happy to be the light skinned superior race of Pakistan, and they do not want to rock the boat. Sorry to put it that way, but I am basing it on facts I gathered so far. In other words, no chance of a cross border alliance between Pashtuns. Those in Afghanistan are isolated, but they are only powerful because Tajiks don't care, and because Iran's Arab government does not care for Tajiks. Tajiks are doomed if they don't take matters in their own hands 'cause nobody else cares. That is sad, but I am not interested in romance, or wishful thinking ... facts matter only.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 11:02 AM

can somebody post the original text of his article?
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 11:08 AM

gulbudin seems to be abondoning his religious only tactics to secure power, now he is mixing it with pashtoo nationalims too, he is openly talking about other ethnicities with nothing to hide. religious extremism plus pashtoo nationalism. here is the article written by him, it is to those who can understand pashtoo.

http://dailyshahadat...ory.php?id=5986
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:10 PM

View PostSohrab, on 22 November 2010 - 11:02 AM, said:

can somebody post the original text of his article?


Here is the original link but it is in Urdu language.
http://www.islamtime...jh8efiqdbj.html
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 05:52 PM

Thanks abu muslim bro.
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Posted 23 November 2010 - 08:06 PM

View PostNader Shah, on 21 November 2010 - 10:58 PM, said:

Do you think that the Pashtuns in Afghanistan can bring in Pakistani Pashtuns to their side ? I doubt it, so based on that there is no danger to Tajiks in Afg. from Paki Pashtuns. A nuclear powered state like Pakistan is not going to let a few tribes destroy it, especially when it has fought so desperately against much powerful foes such as India. The Pashtuns of Afghanistan have no chance ... and it seems, from the little I know, that the Paki Pashtuns are happy to be the light skinned superior race of Pakistan, and they do not want to rock the boat. Sorry to put it that way, but I am basing it on facts I gathered so far. In other words, no chance of a cross border alliance between Pashtuns. Those in Afghanistan are isolated, but they are only powerful because Tajiks don't care, and because Iran's Arab government does not care for Tajiks. Tajiks are doomed if they don't take matters in their own hands 'cause nobody else cares. That is sad, but I am not interested in romance, or wishful thinking ... facts matter only.


I dont think the Pashtun areas of Pakistan can breakaway under their own volition.
For two reasons:
1. The Pashtun areas of Pakistan dont have a border with India and so India cant intervene as it did in Bangladesh in 1971
2. Pakistan is a nuclear-armed state and this precludes any remaining possibility of military intervention by any state

I dont think that the pakistani pashtuns, themselves, have either the necessary political will or the requisite military power to achieve independence

The real danger is if the Punjab realizes that the pashtuns are a burden and decides to breakup the union.
There are motivations for pakistan to retain Baluchistan because of the natrual gas reserves of the province and the strategic value of Gwadar.
There are really no motivations for Pakistan to retain pakhtunkhwa.
They might just get sick of the low-level insurgency and decide to abandon it.

Any serious action to breakup Pakistan must emanate from the Punjab
Pakistani Punjab is the wealthiest province in Pakistan and Indian Punjab is the wealthies province in India.
The two punjabs might just overcome their religious differences and decide to abandon their backward countrymen in both Pakistan and India to form a united punjab
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 08:13 PM

Religion is one of the main factors dividing pak/india. and i personally dont think that the 2 panjabs will become united. on the other hand, pakistani pashtons are highly patriotic, they have good representation in the army, they have had many pashtoon rulers in teh past, secondly, they have autonomy and are running their afairs, so they are pretty happy with their country. even the taliban are fighting in the name of islam, not ethno nationalism.
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Posted 23 November 2010 - 08:14 PM

and i am so glad that india is powerless to break pakistan up, if they could, they would have done it long ago.
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Posted 23 November 2010 - 08:22 PM

View PostSohrab, on 23 November 2010 - 03:13 PM, said:

Religion is one of the main factors dividing pak/india. and i personally dont think that the 2 panjabs will become united. on the other hand, pakistani pashtons are highly patriotic, they have good representation in the army, they have had many pashtoon rulers in teh past, secondly, they have autonomy and are running their afairs, so they are pretty happy with their country. even the taliban are fighting in the name of islam, not ethno nationalism.


I think its important to note that there are two flavors of pakistani Pashtun
One is the crude, uncultured, independent-minded tribal pashtun of the FATA
The other is the semi-detribalized rural/urban pashtun of the Peshawar valley. The pashtuns of the peshawar valley are more progessive than the FATA pashtuns and are far more integrated into mainstream pakistan.
Some of the most influential figures in the pakistani pashtun community and in the Peshawar valley are actually Qizilbash; former pakistani president Agha Mohammad Yahya Khan Qizilbash is a prominent example.

The pashtuns of the plains may have some attachment to pakistan but the tribal pashtun of the FATA are only pakistani by name.
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 09:58 PM

yes brother, on the other hand they(fata guys) havent done anything to harm/break up pakistan. the ttp is mostly from fata part, but their issue with establishment is religion. secondly, not all part of fata is what we think, Swat and its surrounding areas are completely different and alot more patriotic pakistan than even peshawaris.
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 02:26 AM

You seem well-informed and I agree with your points. However, in my opinion, there is little danger of a breakup in Pakistan. You made a good point about the different mentality of Pashtuns depending on their location and culture. Based on what I have learned, the Pakistanis would never relinquish a single inch of their territory, and Pashtun areas are no exception. I am not familiar with any Punjabi independence movement of a serious kind.

Anyway, the bottom line is that Pakistan will stay as it is, and Afghan Pashtuns have no chance of having a major impact on Pakistan, except through the mischievous acts of the Taliban in some tribal areas on the border, which may not amount to much in practical terms, at the end of the day.

Tajiks need to worry only about the Afghan Pashtun threat. But I am afraid they have to worry about Hazaras as well, given the hostility I have seen on the internet and in personal interactions, towards Iran and Tajiks. I do not know much about Uzbeks in Afghanistan and how they view themselves w.r.t to Tajiks.

Unfortunately, it seems unlikely Iran will be of any help to Tajiks in Afghanistan as long as things are the way they are in Iran.

View Postقزلباش, on 23 November 2010 - 08:06 PM, said:

I dont think the Pashtun areas of Pakistan can breakaway under their own volition.
For two reasons:
1. The Pashtun areas of Pakistan dont have a border with India and so India cant intervene as it did in Bangladesh in 1971
2. Pakistan is a nuclear-armed state and this precludes any remaining possibility of military intervention by any state

I dont think that the pakistani pashtuns, themselves, have either the necessary political will or the requisite military power to achieve independence

The real danger is if the Punjab realizes that the pashtuns are a burden and decides to breakup the union.
There are motivations for pakistan to retain Baluchistan because of the natrual gas reserves of the province and the strategic value of Gwadar.
There are really no motivations for Pakistan to retain pakhtunkhwa.
They might just get sick of the low-level insurgency and decide to abandon it.

Any serious action to breakup Pakistan must emanate from the Punjab
Pakistani Punjab is the wealthiest province in Pakistan and Indian Punjab is the wealthies province in India.
The two punjabs might just overcome their religious differences and decide to abandon their backward countrymen in both Pakistan and India to form a united punjab

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 07:38 PM

The indians waste not a moment to break pakitan up. look at this and you can see what they are upto.

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 07:39 PM

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 07:39 PM

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 02:00 AM

View PostSohrab, on 24 November 2010 - 02:38 PM, said:

The indians waste not a moment to break pakitan up. look at this and you can see what they are upto.


Sohrab Jan, I dont think think there are any doubts as to what the intentions of the Indians are.

However, there is disconnect between what they WANT to do and what they CAN do.
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 02:26 AM

Qizilbash aziz Pakistan like Afghanistan is heading towards disintegration. They are unable to control Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and if they keep that region the Taliban will spread throughout Pakistan. Pakistan will accept this especially if it is weakened which it is very weak right now and pressure not only from the US but from other regional powers like China will support this. Pakistan will be successful with NWFP being its satellite state rather than its own province in the long run.
Ba Naam e Khudahvand e Jan o Kherad, Kazeen Bartar Andisha Bar Nagzarad

به نام خداوند جان و خرد، کزین برتر اندیشه برنگذرد
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Posted 25 November 2010 - 02:48 AM

View PostGul agha, on 24 November 2010 - 09:26 PM, said:

Qizilbash aziz Pakistan like Afghanistan is heading towards disintegration. They are unable to control Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and if they keep that region the Taliban will spread throughout Pakistan. Pakistan will accept this especially if it is weakened which it is very weak right now and pressure not only from the US but from other regional powers like China will support this. Pakistan will be successful with NWFP being its satellite state rather than its own province in the long run.


I dont think that the US will allow Pakistan to disintegrate, in the short term at least.
But you are right, Pakistan doesn't have the requisite national cohesion to survive in the long term.
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

Bakhtiari Proverb
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Posted 25 November 2010 - 05:04 AM

Pakistan is on the verge of being a failed state, if not already one, but one with nukes. It may not matter that much since the Soviet Union fell apart and the nukes did not help. The main question: how serious is the Taliban insurgency in the NWFP of Pakistan ? Can a bunch of tribal gun wielding islamic mental retards bring down an entire state - in the case of Afghanistan, perhaps , but in the case of Pakistan it seems ridiculous. Of course, they can be real pain in the neck.
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