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Posted 10 December 2010 - 06:37 PM

Dear Azim Khan,

I opened this topic because of you and our many questions about Tajiks in Uzbekistan and the state self. Please, feel free to answer our questions to make us understand about Uzbekistan.

Braadar e Aziz, Azim Khan Geraami, man in Topik ra baas kardam baraa e shomaa wa baraa e mardom e degaraan dar in Khana. Chun maa as shoma yagaan sawaalaa makhsusz daarem ke jawaabeshan dar Chat Box daada nameshawad (Baraa e Uzbakistan o Pak-Mardom Tajik). Dost e Aziz, agar bar shomaa kodaam problem nist, lotfan begoyen ke zendagi e mardom e Tajik dar Uzbakistan bar kodam nazar pesh merawa. Bar maa mardom kho megoyan ke mardom e Tajik dar Uzbakistan aq-e zaban e Pak e shirin e Parsi ra nadaaran wa sobat kardanesh jonaayati astad. Maktabaa e Tajikaan ra basta kardan wa mardom e Tajik as kujaa ba zaban e Parsi e khod pesh merawan? Ki bareshaan dars e Parsi metawan? As kujaa kitabhaa e Parsi me-aayad? As Iran yaa Uzbakistan as khod kitaabkhaanaa e bar zaban e Parsi daarad?

Khodet megoye ke nefus e mardom e Tajik dar Uzbakistan kamtar 30% ast wa Bukharaa o Samarqand, Termiz, Sukhandaryo markazaa e Tajikaan ast, amaah imrooz dawlat e Uzbakistan (''Khaanadaan e Bukhara'') megoyad ke nefus e mardom e Tajikaan dar Uzbakistan 5% ast, dar aale ke Bukharaa o Samarqand khodeshaan markaaza e Tajik ast wa nefus e shon ba kamtar 80-85% mirasad. Amin gapaa-e Karimov ra nafamidam. Agar ami ra bar maa al koned khosh meshem as shoma.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 08:17 PM

Barodarhoi Aziz, rahmat baroi hurmati shmo! Rahmat ki baroi man shuda yak topik kshodet!
Avvalan guftan darkor ki Prezidenti Uzbekiston(Islom Karimov) Tojik ast. to ki u zinda Tojikoro hech kas azob doda nametavonat. az digar taraf haqattan ham maktabhoi Tojiki mahqam.. yani bisyori Tojiko na honda, na navista ba zaboni forsi nametonan. Dar Uzbekiston kitobi Tojiki yoftan helo mushkil! faqat agar az chetdavlat rusti ovari honda metoni, naboshat ne... Baroi Tojiko haqattan ham problemaho mul... Tarihi hudro honda nametonet.. zaboni adabiyro handa nametonet.. Davlat politicai bezeb mebaran.. masalan tarihi Tojikora duzida megan ki in tarihi Uzbeko.. (Abu Ali ibn Sino yoki Ismoili Somoni hameshona Uzbek megan!!!).. dar maktabo hamhel fireb mekunan... az fahri millati Tojik metarsan... afsus ki ruz ba ruz Tojiko kamtar va kamtar shuysas... agar 5 sol pesh dar Samarqand umuman suhanhoi Uzbeki nameshunidi(hamma faqat ba zaboni Tojiki gap mezadan), hozir har yak qadamba lafzi uzbikero meshuni... in muammoi kalon.. namedonam chi meshavat kay ki Karimov az korash meravet... agar ki ba dasti Tojik-prezident Tojiko maktab nadoran ba dasti Uzbek chi meshat??
dar Samarqandu Buhoro Tojiki muhtoriyat(autonomy) sohtan lozim! agar hozir nasozem badi 50 sol in Shahrhoi qadimro gum mekunem...
bo yak taraf, muammoi pul. Dar Uzbekiston ki pul dorad hamun ham kuch ham davlat dorad. Hal kardani muammoi Tojiko faqat dar on ki Tojikoro boy kunem! Agar dar Uzbekiston bisyor boy bachoi Tojik paydo shavat in muammo hud ba hud hal meshavat... ham Muhtoriyat paydo meshavat, ham maktabu madrasho kshda meshavat..
Hullas, hamma muammoho dar pul.. agar inson pul nadorat az kjo fahri millat paydo meshavat? az kjo ilm paydo meshavat? agar pul naboshat ki kitob mehonat? baroi hamma chiz pul darkor.. agar dil gushna boshat inson ham fahri millata gum mekunat ham az justujui ilm dur meshavat.

agar harfoma yagon kas nafahmid purset man ba zaboni Englisi tarjuma kardana harakat mekunam
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 08:40 PM

Amaah choro Islam Karimov bar zede Tajikaan ast, bar zede Zaban e khod, zaban e Padari khod? Man khaandam dar yak band ke Islam Karimov asli as mardom e Jahoodaa e Samarqand ast. Daraal-e ke ''Taajik'' ast, merwa khodesh taraf-e tabar-e Uzbak Khaanaa o Zaban-e Khataghai wa kole Tarikh o Farhang e Uzbakistan ra ba naam e ''Uzbaki'' qilmaa zada. Maa chi kaar baayat bekonem ke problemaa he mardom e Tajikaan dar Uzbakistan kam shawad?

Internet Cafe dar Uzbakistan ujud daarad wa chiq-a dareshan bar internet daastiabi daaran?
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 10:39 AM

Islom Karimov Tojik budanash 100% barodar... chun ki u az Registon..dar Registon(burdai Samarqand) tavallud shudagi, kalon shudagi. unja faqat Tojiko zandagoni mekunan. barodari Karimov to hol tarafi Samarqand-selski zindagoni mekunat, unjo sad foizi mardum Tojiko ast... Fahmet ki agar fahri millati Tojik zyod shavat Uzbekiston parcha-parcha meshat, jang sar shudanash munkin, az in chiz hamma metarsat, baroi hamin maktabu madrashoya mahqam mekunat... az yak taraf in korash durust, chun ki jang chizi siyo.. Iloim Hudovand janga ba saro nafiristoyad..
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 10:44 AM

choro Uzbakistan parcha parcha meshawad agar nefus-e Taajik syaat shawad? In gap ra nafamidam. Baaz khai ham tarz daashta baashad as mardom-e Tajikaan. Onhaa ra be-haq wa be-risha mekonad

http://books.google....20Tajik&f=false

Dar in kitaab naweshta shoda ke nationalizm-e Tajikaan dar Bukharaa o Samarqand khatarnaak-tarin chise ast dar Uzbakistan. Raast gofti. Amaa un padarnalat choro namekhaayad ke mardom-e Tajikaan ra dar kol-e Asiaa yaki konad? Behtarin kaar ast. Man khandam dar yak kitaab ke Islam Karimov dar yak Jatim Khaana e Samarkand kalaan shoda. Wa as braadaresh hitch wakht chise nakhaandem. Dar Wikipedia ham chise naweshta nakardan
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 11:45 AM

dar Jatim Khona faqat davri jang, 2 yoki 3 sol zindagoni kardanba majbur shudagi bud.. lekin badi jang Modarash uro boz az unja girifta hudash kalon kard... dar Wikipedia bisyor chiz norost menavesan. lekin barodari Karimovro hama medonat dar Samarqand.. ba peshi barodarash doimo mehmoni mebyot u... tarafoi Samarqand-selski bisyor heshu-taboram zindagoni mekunan, in chiza man aniq medonam..
barodari Karimov hudash megat ki: Man hichi kor karda nametavonam.. agar ki muammoi halqro gap zadana sar kunam Islom megat ki bas kun, byo masalai politicaya dur kunemu mavzui digarba suhbat kunem...
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 02:44 PM

i am glad to have you here azim khan.

a question to qizilbash and nadir shah: how of what azim khan says is understandable to you guys?
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 03:03 PM

View PostSohrab, on 11 December 2010 - 02:44 PM, said:

i am glad to have you here azim khan.

a question to qizilbash and nadir shah: how of what azim khan says is understandable to you guys?


I can understand him word to word. But what striked me was that he uses for ''kh'' and ''gh'' like in Tarikh (history) only the word ''h'' which comes from the Turkic idioms. Of course, in some ways the grammar seems to be a little different but it does not make any differences. Sohrab, have you problems to understand Samarqandi dialect?

@Azim Khan

Kho khai braadar, to ham tamaaz dari amroh-e braadar-e Karimov. Bekhey khoob. Imkaan darad ke onhaa dar in zafa-e maa beayan wa amroh-e maa mardom zobat konad? Maa mekhohem ke bedaanem ke ba kodaam kaar maa metawanem mardom-e Tajikaan-e Uzbakistan ra komak konem. Numra-e telefunisha khoded daari yaa email-adrassesha? Bar maa mohem ast ke amroh-e siaasatmadaran-e Uzbakistan ham tamaaz dashta bashem, hadaaqal amroh-e kase ke dost-e yak siaasatmadaar ast, khuzusan braadar-e Karimov. Yak taali-e (chance) buzurg ast.
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 03:25 PM

View PostSohrab, on 11 December 2010 - 09:44 AM, said:

i am glad to have you here azim khan.

a question to qizilbash and nadir shah: how of what azim khan says is understandable to you guys?


I understand his accent quite well!

It takes me longer to read through his accent that it takes me to read through something written in the Tehrani accent but I understand him nonetheless

I love the way he speaks; It sounds sweet.
He uses alot of "o" phonemes like most eastern Persians
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 04:41 AM

View PostAzim-khan, on 10 December 2010 - 01:17 PM, said:

Barodarhoi Aziz, rahmat baroi hurmati shmo! Rahmat ki baroi man shuda yak topik kshodet!
Avvalan guftan darkor ki Prezidenti Uzbekiston(Islom Karimov) Tojik ast. to ki u zinda Tojikoro hech kas azob doda nametavonat. az digar taraf haqattan ham maktabhoi Tojiki mahqam.. yani bisyori Tojiko na honda, na navista ba zaboni forsi nametonan. Dar Uzbekiston kitobi Tojiki yoftan helo mushkil! faqat agar az chetdavlat rusti ovari honda metoni, naboshat ne... Baroi Tojiko haqattan ham problemaho mul... Tarihi hudro honda nametonet.. zaboni adabiyro handa nametonet.. Davlat politicai bezeb mebaran.. masalan tarihi Tojikora duzida megan ki in tarihi Uzbeko.. (Abu Ali ibn Sino yoki Ismoili Somoni hameshona Uzbek megan!!!).. dar maktabo hamhel fireb mekunan... az fahri millati Tojik metarsan... afsus ki ruz ba ruz Tojiko kamtar va kamtar shuysas... agar 5 sol pesh dar Samarqand umuman suhanhoi Uzbeki nameshunidi(hamma faqat ba zaboni Tojiki gap mezadan), hozir har yak qadamba lafzi uzbikero meshuni... in muammoi kalon.. namedonam chi meshavat kay ki Karimov az korash meravet... agar ki ba dasti Tojik-prezident Tojiko maktab nadoran ba dasti Uzbek chi meshat??
dar Samarqandu Buhoro Tojiki muhtoriyat(autonomy) sohtan lozim! agar hozir nasozem badi 50 sol in Shahrhoi qadimro gum mekunem...
bo yak taraf, muammoi pul. Dar Uzbekiston ki pul dorad hamun ham kuch ham davlat dorad. Hal kardani muammoi Tojiko faqat dar on ki Tojikoro boy kunem! Agar dar Uzbekiston bisyor boy bachoi Tojik paydo shavat in muammo hud ba hud hal meshavat... ham Muhtoriyat paydo meshavat, ham maktabu madrasho kshda meshavat..
Hullas, hamma muammoho dar pul.. agar inson pul nadorat az kjo fahri millat paydo meshavat? az kjo ilm paydo meshavat? agar pul naboshat ki kitob mehonat? baroi hamma chiz pul darkor.. agar dil gushna boshat inson ham fahri millata gum mekunat ham az justujui ilm dur meshavat.

agar harfoma yagon kas nafahmid purset man ba zaboni Englisi tarjuma kardana harakat mekunam


salam,
mikhastam bedounam mardomaneh khiva va shahre sabz be kodoom zaban gap mizanan, parsi ya uzbeki?
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Posted 12 December 2010 - 05:02 AM

I understand him perfectly and he is very dear to me :)

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i am glad to have you here azim khan.

a question to qizilbash and nadir shah: how of what azim khan says is understandable to you guys?

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 08:49 AM

View PostNader Shah, on 12 December 2010 - 05:02 AM, said:

I understand him perfectly and he is very dear to me :)


And do you understand me, too? :D ;)
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:56 AM

thats good to know that.
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Posted 14 December 2010 - 06:47 PM

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dar Khiva Tojiko kam.. .hamma uzbeki gap mezanan...
dar Shahrisabz Tojiko bisyor, lekin ba fikram az nispi aholi zyod nest... dar Shahrisabz ba kadom zabon suhbata sar kunet ba hamun zabon javob meshunet )


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ohir barodari Karimov odami pir ast.. u Internet chi budanasha namedonatu az kjo email dorad? odamoi ki uro ru ba ru meshnosan dar internet namedaron... injo faqat rangi man javon studento daromada metavonan.. man ham agar ki dar Russia hondan nameraftam shoyad injo daromada nametonistam.

dar Samarqand muammo bisyor. hamesha, afsus ki, injo gufta nameshavat. munkin ki yak ruz kay ki dar London musofir shavam ba shmo hamesha ru ba ru meguyam. lekin to vaya vaqt bisyor Universitetro tamom kunam, dar London mehmoni meravam )
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 05:27 AM

View PostAzim-khan, on 14 December 2010 - 11:47 AM, said:

Parsi_zaban

dar Khiva Tojiko kam.. .hamma uzbeki gap mezanan...
dar Shahrisabz Tojiko bisyor, lekin ba fikram az nispi aholi zyod nest... dar Shahrisabz ba kadom zabon suhbata sar kunet ba hamun zabon javob meshunet )


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ohir barodari Karimov odami pir ast.. u Internet chi budanasha namedonatu az kjo email dorad? odamoi ki uro ru ba ru meshnosan dar internet namedaron... injo faqat rangi man javon studento daromada metavonan.. man ham agar ki dar Russia hondan nameraftam shoyad injo daromada nametonistam.

dar Samarqand muammo bisyor. hamesha, afsus ki, injo gufta nameshavat. munkin ki yak ruz kay ki dar London musofir shavam ba shmo hamesha ru ba ru meguyam. lekin to vaya vaqt bisyor Universitetro tamom kunam, dar London mehmoni meravam )


Manzooretoon een ast keh bishar az 50 darsad dar shahre sabz parsi gap mizanan va tajikis astan?
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 05:49 PM

az nispi aholi kamtar budagist.. lekin bisyor kas gap zada metonan.
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