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Poll: If there was a referendum to change the name of Afghanistan, what name should it be? (7 member(s) have cast votes)

If there was a referendum to change the name of Afghanistan, what name should it be?

  1. Aryana(Ariana) (4 votes [57.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

  2. Khavaran (2 votes [28.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  3. East Iran(Iran-e Khavari) (1 votes [14.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  4. Hindukush (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 11:18 AM

The name Afghanistan is misleading and unfair to the inhabitants of the land who are not Pashtuns(Afghans). There are many non-Pashtuns(such as Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks, Turkmens, Nuristani, Baluch and others) who share the land with Pashtuns.

Based on this, a neutral name should have applied to the country. Historically the land was known by as Hindukush and at some time of history as Khorasan.

Let's say if there was a referndum to change the name of the country, what name would you think is most suitable?
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:00 PM

I chose Khawaran but would prefere Khorasan tough bothb words have the same meaning
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:31 PM

Aryana
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:40 PM

View PostKakar, on 24 December 2010 - 07:31 PM, said:

Aryana


It would be racistic to Turkic people of the region, most of all toward Hazaras. But it´s interesting to see an Indo-Pakistani-Pashtunized Arab chosing Aryana for Afghanistan
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 09:27 PM

View PostParsistani, on 24 December 2010 - 07:40 PM, said:

It would be racistic to Turkic people of the region, most of all toward Hazaras. But it´s interesting to see an Indo-Pakistani-Pashtunized Arab chosing Aryana for Afghanistan


put up your picture, and ill put up mine. and we will see who looks more iranic
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 11:23 PM

View PostKakar, on 24 December 2010 - 09:27 PM, said:

put up your picture, and ill put up mine. and we will see who looks more iranic


I don´t need to upload my picture. Many people know me. I have even the profile of a Greec. I asked you since you believe in your ''Aryan-beeing'' without bringing any evidances tough knowing about your Pashtunized Indian origine mixed with various other tribes and people. Upload yours and if your picture is not a copy I will surely do upload my picture. But as it seems you are too afraid either of your fake ''beeing Aryan'' or that I can find your on facebook since you do not tell me your account while you have already my adress to my own house. You see, you Pashtuns are not trustworthy
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Posted 25 December 2010 - 01:46 AM

View PostParsistani, on 24 December 2010 - 11:23 PM, said:

I don´t need to upload my picture. Many people know me. I have even the profile of a Greec. I asked you since you believe in your ''Aryan-beeing'' without bringing any evidances tough knowing about your Pashtunized Indian origine mixed with various other tribes and people. Upload yours and if your picture is not a copy I will surely do upload my picture. But as it seems you are too afraid either of your fake ''beeing Aryan'' or that I can find your on facebook since you do not tell me your account while you have already my adress to my own house. You see, you Pashtuns are not trustworthy


lol you look like a homo
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Posted 25 December 2010 - 02:59 AM

and you are a coward afraid to put up your picture

View PostKakar, on 25 December 2010 - 01:46 AM, said:

lol you look like a homo

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 10:33 AM

View PostKakar, on 25 December 2010 - 01:46 AM, said:

lol you look like a homo


You was asking and as a man with ghairat and nang I uploaded I picture of mine tough it was not necessery but now you insult me. What is wrong with you? Calling me homo does not make me to a homo because neither my forefathers were Pashtuns nor I am a Pashtun.
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Which of the ''men'' is you and which is your father? If someone talks with you in civil than give in civil answers.
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:05 PM

View PostNader Shah, on 25 December 2010 - 02:59 AM, said:

and you are a coward afraid to put up your picture


im the one on the right

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tall, light skin, no mongoloid features, parents on both sides going back as far as we can go back, 100% qibail pakhtun

none of that turkic mongoloid indic shiit here bro
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:06 PM

View PostNader Shah, on 25 December 2010 - 02:59 AM, said:

and you are a coward afraid to put up your picture


im the one on the right

6"7
tall, light skin, no mongoloid features, parents on both sides going back as far as we can go back, 100% qibail pakhtun

none of that turkic mongoloid indic shiit here bro
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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:07 PM

View PostKakar, on 27 December 2010 - 09:06 PM, said:

im the one on the right

6"7
tall, light skin, no mongoloid features, parents on both sides going back as far as we can go back, 100% qibail pakhtun

none of that turkic mongoloid indic shiit here bro


dont make me show up around any of your girlfriends, because in my presence, they see a real man.

parsistani, this is a 6"7, 230 lb Kakar, not no 5"7 bullshiit son. QIBAIL HOMIE
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 10:47 AM

View PostKakar, on 27 December 2010 - 09:07 PM, said:

dont make me show up around any of your girlfriends, because in my presence, they see a real man.

parsistani, this is a 6"7, 230 lb Kakar, not no 5"7 bullshiit son. QIBAIL HOMIE


Hey Ranjit Singh Jee, hey, hey, hey...how many times did you worked on the photo with photoshop or did you even taken the picture of a poor Indian/Panjabi instead of your own? Because it´s strange that you come up with it just now which makes you no reliabl. But who cares how you look like. I guess the right one is your boyfriend, the Dundy boy who want to makes you stoned with his beer so he can give all his attentionto much easier to you. Don´t get catched by the Talib or Al-Qaida guys otherwise your ''partooq'' lol will face it´s end. His unwashed dirty and oily hairs should be washed at least 2times a week. And ask him not turning to a full shemale. I already paste the video where you and him are seeable (second vodeo), when you had´t hairs. And comeone ...

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6"7, 230 lb Kakar

:lol: :lol: Have you ever seen yourself in a mirror, you ''cucumber beanpole''? :lol: :lol: You are nearly a skeleton and you want to weigh more than 100kg? Hahaha ...If you are the lungi man than how tall is the right one, some 1.70m, 1.80m? Even I, with my 1.86m and 95kgs do look more solid than your boyfriend. Btw, where are your shoulders? Your head is bigger than your upper part of your body, lungi boy, sorry, I mean Ranjit.

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QIBAIL HOMIE

What is that? The brothel (your home) where you sell yourself?

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tall, light skin, no mongoloid features


I never said that you are mongolid. First of all I do not know you. What I said was your ancestors were Turko-Mongolians who rode over all part of Pakhtunwha to Abaseend and Panjab and than your kind were born...as Lodhis, Suris and Baujaris and the rest of the thugs were born. A modern Khalaj Indian do also not look mongolian or asiatic. Where is your logic? And you see, you and your boyfriends look like Indians. When I said you Kakars are original Indians than because I have the references and know about it. It´s a shame for your Gujjar and the Indian ''Gakar'' people that you today become a Pashtun, a member of their worsest enemy. At least your boyfriend is the best proof for you that his phenotype is the same as yours, Ranjit Sing :lol: :lol: And where are you ''light skin''? You do not differ from your aside partner or do you want to act and looking like an european/american...in your case Canadian?

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your girlfriends

It least my girlfriend is female and feminine not as this shemale beanpole.

My offering to you would be let´s get a new start without personal insultings. Srarting a new objective and non-ethnocentric view to all the problems we have.
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 11:28 AM

This is a proud moment for this forum

Frankly, I am 20 and yet i was under the impression that you are both my junior
The pictures indicate otherwise

By the way, Parsistani, you look quite a bit like a childhood friend of mine. You look very Iranian (the nationality).
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 11:37 AM

View Postقزلباش, on 28 December 2010 - 11:28 AM, said:

This is a proud moment for this forum

Frankly, I am 20 and yet i was under the impression that you are both my junior
The pictures indicate otherwise

By the way, Parsistani, you look quite a bit like a childhood friend of mine. You look very Iranian (the nationality).


:D :D :D

Back to topic.

During Najibullah, the last communist president and puppet of a foreign power, there was a program for a name changing from Afghanistan - Land of Pashtuns to Azadistan - Land of the Free People. Majority wanted a change but than the fightings became worser and the Taliban came to Kabul enjoying the trust of the naive people. Than the story was finished. But a name change alone do not change anything. Be it Khorasan, Aryana, Azadistan or Iran or Tajikistan or Jahudistan. The problems will remain. What we need is a partition, as soon as possible. I would even accept Kandahar as a lost centre of Tajiks.
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 05:56 PM

View PostParsistani, on 28 December 2010 - 10:47 AM, said:

Hey Ranjit Singh Jee, hey, hey, hey...how many times did you worked on the photo with photoshop or did you even taken the picture of a poor Indian/Panjabi instead of your own? Because it´s strange that you come up with it just now which makes you no reliabl. But who cares how you look like. I guess the right one is your boyfriend, the Dundy boy who want to makes you stoned with his beer so he can give all his attentionto much easier to you. Don´t get catched by the Talib or Al-Qaida guys otherwise your ''partooq'' lol will face it´s end. His unwashed dirty and oily hairs should be washed at least 2times a week. And ask him not turning to a full shemale. I already paste the video where you and him are seeable (second vodeo), when you had´t hairs. And comeone ...
:lol: :lol: Have you ever seen yourself in a mirror, you ''cucumber beanpole''? :lol: :lol: You are nearly a skeleton and you want to weigh more than 100kg? Hahaha ...If you are the lungi man than how tall is the right one, some 1.70m, 1.80m? Even I, with my 1.86m and 95kgs do look more solid than your boyfriend. Btw, where are your shoulders? Your head is bigger than your upper part of your body, lungi boy, sorry, I mean Ranjit.


What is that? The brothel (your home) where you sell yourself?



I never said that you are mongolid. First of all I do not know you. What I said was your ancestors were Turko-Mongolians who rode over all part of Pakhtunwha to Abaseend and Panjab and than your kind were born...as Lodhis, Suris and Baujaris and the rest of the thugs were born. A modern Khalaj Indian do also not look mongolian or asiatic. Where is your logic? And you see, you and your boyfriends look like Indians. When I said you Kakars are original Indians than because I have the references and know about it. It´s a shame for your Gujjar and the Indian ''Gakar'' people that you today become a Pashtun, a member of their worsest enemy. At least your boyfriend is the best proof for you that his phenotype is the same as yours, Ranjit Sing :lol: :lol: And where are you ''light skin''? You do not differ from your aside partner or do you want to act and looking like an european/american...in your case Canadian?


It least my girlfriend is female and feminine not as this shemale beanpole.

My offering to you would be let´s get a new start without personal insultings. Srarting a new objective and non-ethnocentric view to all the problems we have.


Listen khar, when you have bells on your feet and make up on your face, then dont complain that people are calling you a slut

i have been the most respectful to everyone on this forum, except you, because you are an idiot and a coward, who does nothing but insult peoples blood, heritage and families

so i have no respect for filth like you.

you can laugh and talk all the shiit you want, but at the end of the day im taller than you, bigger than you, stronger than you, and have more iranic complexion than you. lol...i can see the TORK in your face, mutt

and im a much better looking man, ill walk into any club in your city and leave with any broad, i told you, dont keep your girl around me son

you are in the presence of a true iranic warrior, analyze my picture, internalize the superiority of this breed of man

heres another one for you, i dont even need to put up pics where im posing or serious. ill put up a goofy pic too. if you ever saw me in real life you would either shiit your pants, or come up to me like a groupie and shake my hand and ask questions.
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 06:42 PM

I have spent quite a bit of time studying formal physical anthropology and i have a basic understanding of the works of Coon, Von Luschan and Eikstedt.

I am able to make rough anthropological classifications.
I have refrained from mentioning my intial assesment of your types because i do not want to infringe on your privacy.
Besides, i would also need profile shots in order to make a successful assessment.

I will, however, say that i do not see any mongoloid influences in Parsistani.

For those of you who are interested in studying the Iranic type, i would recommed reading the works of Carelton Coon.

This site provides a brief illustrated summary:
http://carnby.alterv...g/troe/p-18.htm

I must,however, warn you that physical anthropology has been largely rendered obsolete by the advent of genetic testing.
I am also of the opinion that the concept of race, itself, is obsolete
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 06:44 PM

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Listen khar, when you have bells on your feet and make up on your face, then dont complain that people are calling you a slut


:lol: :lol: Yes, ''make up''..kid (even with you boozak-i chini beard you look like a 14years old kid), I´m not a sand-nigger like you. See the contrast between you and your asiatic friend who categorized by fascist British colonialists falsefully to the ''Yellow Race'' to which only Mongols and the native Americans belong to. Btw, the girl in the middle, and obviously neither the one nor the other is your ''girlfriend'', do not differ from your phenotype. You both look Indian (Tera mendi, ho ho hey lol) ...from the upper caste, of course. But where is your boy-friend? Because first I thought he was you and you was him lol :lol:

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i have been the most respectful to everyone on this forum, except you, because you are an idiot and a coward, who does nothing but insult peoples blood, heritage and families


I did not insulted your blood or family. I just told you who your ancestors are. If you would tell me my ancestors were Iranic people of Bactria, Persia, Parthia, Sogdia, Kabul, Sistan...I would accept it and wouldn´t be insulted.

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you can laugh and talk all the shiit you want, but at the end of the day im taller than you, bigger than you, stronger than you, and have more iranic complexion than you. lol...i can see the TORK in your face, mutt


:lol: :lol: well, right now you show I hurted you by my ARYAN beeing. You writing clearly show your cry. My ancestors ruling your mazhab for centuries, if not for 2000years, so Indians did, Turks did it for 600 years, Mongols did it for 300 years, Arabs did it for 300 years, Greecs did it for 300 years. :lol: :lol: When it was your time to rule, your ''servants'' became your ruler and the lawer of your royal women. Why you weren´t ''taller'', ''bigger'', ''stronger'' and ''more Iranic'' than them and me? Why you are not today ''taller'', ''bigger'', ''better'' and ''stronger'' than Panjabis and Arabs? You are only more backward, stupid, more Pashtunized Indo-Dravic, more uneducated, more tribalist than me. Just look, you even laugh about your own claim because you self do not believe in what you are talking about :lol: I do not blame you therefore. At the end of day you will be one of the losers who think they can act exibitionistic. Now I also understand why you have uploaded again a picture. I guess, rora, you won´t find here someone from the ''other side'' of the river.

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and im a much better looking man, ill walk into any club in your city and leave with any broad, i told you, dont keep your girl around me son


Damn...I am afraid...first go and take a bath and wash your oily hairs and sleazy skin. That the two girls are only your good friends...as I can see and judge, I come to the conclussion that you must be a at least a dundy if not a full Homosexual (I do not hate Homosexuals because they are human, too and can´t change their tendency which is innatic). That´s why you had a bear in your hand to stone Singh Baba when he wanted to drink his orange juice, Ranjit Singh? :lol:

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Do you see any difference between these ''Irano''-Dravians and yourself? I can´t. Every antrophologist would tell you the same. I can scan some book pages I have about Indians and Indo-Pakistani people. Let´s find out where you stand there?!

You should try yourself on European and white American women, not those Panjabi, Afghani, Paki, Arab or etc easy girls and ladies who take everyone. Be it in Canada, America, French, Dutch or elsewhere. And please, I do not waste my time with someone like you. Either you get civilised and act as a human and I welcome you thousand times or keep a Pashtun but stay away from me. I am a boy and part of the civilised world. I also don´t want to f*** my brain off just because of a moron. I can do with my time much better things than wasting it on a good-for-nothing guy.

One point. I know you goat hate Turks or Mongols but at least 30% of Pashtuns have originally east-asian ancestory. I do also not know why it is bad to be a Turk or a Mongol or suffering under down-syndrome. Are Mongols and Turks bad people because of their east-asian features? In the court of humen history, Turks and Mongols proved themself more humanic, more gentle, noble, civilised and promoter of civilisations than Pashtuns have ever had done. Shame on you. Beside that, your insult your paternal ancestors who raided Pakistan and it´s people. Why do you think you call yourself Khan...''Baz Khan'' (''Open Khan'' lol). Be a man and tell that to a Turk. He would f*** you directly and cut your head off. Don´t let catched yourself by the Grey Wolfs otherwise there won´t be anything your parents could mourn about or bying for you a casket.

Now back to topic
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 06:53 PM

View Postقزلباش, on 28 December 2010 - 06:42 PM, said:

I have spent quite a bit of time studying formal physical anthropology and i have a basic understanding of the works of Coon, Von Luschan and Eikstedt.

I am able to make rough anthropological classifications.
I have refrained from mentioning my intial assesment of your types because i do not want to infringe on your privacy.
Besides, i would also need profile shots in order to make a successful assessment.

I will, however, say that i do not see any mongoloid influences in Parsistani.

For those of you who are interested in studying the Iranic type, i would recommed reading the works of Carelton Coon.

This site provides a brief illustrated summary:
http://carnby.alterv...g/troe/p-18.htm

I must,however, warn you that physical anthropology has been largely rendered obsolete by the advent of genetic testing.
I am also of the opinion that the concept of race, itself, is obsolete


You know that this kind of categorization was used in the 19th century and is not seen as a scientific theme of antropology? This methode was later developed by Nazi Germany to categorize ''Aryans'' in Europe. That´s pseudo-science.
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 07:14 PM

View PostParsistani, on 28 December 2010 - 01:53 PM, said:

You know that this kind of categorization was used in the 19th century and is not seen as a scientific theme of antropology? This methode was later developed by Nazi Germany to categorize ''Aryans'' in Europe. That´s pseudo-science.


Its not just pseudo-science; its obsolete pseudo-science.
I wish i had realized that before I wasted countless hours reading Coon's ramblings.
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

Bakhtiari Proverb
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