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Posted 31 March 2011 - 02:49 PM

Dear friends,

in April, Dostum and honoured Pedram will come to Germany where they will lead a debate among our own youth. It´s about the future of Afghanistan and a partition. For more information, please have a bit patience.
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 06:11 PM

It is good. I have notticed that Pedram have tried his best to bridge gap between Tajiks, Hazaras and Uzbeks.
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Posted 06 April 2011 - 10:22 AM

Parsistani,Why do tajiks want partition of afghanistan when they constitute majority in unified afghanistan.
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Posted 06 April 2011 - 03:47 PM

View Postasif1986, on 06 April 2011 - 05:22 AM, said:

Parsistani,Why do tajiks want partition of afghanistan when they constitute majority in unified afghanistan.


Firstly, Ill say that i dont think that Tajiks constitute the majority in present-day Afghanistan. I simply dont buy it.

Even if we assume that they do, Ill answer your assertion by posing this analogy: "why do we throw away spoilt milk if the fungi only affect a fraction of the whole?"

The modern nation-state demands a certain level of homogenity and, in the context of the afghanistan, this cant be acheived without destroying ALL the cultures at play.
I dont think that Persian culture is neccesarily some divine answer to the human condition and i want to emphasize that this loveless union in Afghanistan will only contribute to the cultural decay of all parties involved.

As with all thing, the Quran says it best:
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13. O mankind! We created
You from a single (pair)
Of a male and a female,
And made you into
Nations and tribes, that
Ye may know each other
Verily
The most honoured of you
In the sight of God
Is (he who is) the most
Righteous of you.
And God has full knowledge
And is well acquainted
(With all things).
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 04:23 PM

View Postقزلباش, on 06 April 2011 - 04:47 PM, said:

Firstly, Ill say that i dont think that Tajiks constitute the majority in present-day Afghanistan. I simply dont buy it.

Ok.I wasnt sure if they do constitute majority figure as some active members on this forum like parsistani,gul agha were claiming that tajiks outnumber pashtuns in afghanistan.
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Posted 06 April 2011 - 04:40 PM

View Postasif1986, on 06 April 2011 - 11:23 AM, said:

Ok.I wasnt sure if they do constitute majority figure as some active members on this forum like parsistani,gul agha were claiming that tajiks outnumber pashtuns in afghanistan.


I simply stated my opinion
Parsistani and others may have a different opinion with regard to this question.

Besides, I addressed the issue with the hypothetical assumption that the Tajiks are the majority.
Absolute numbers and percentages are of little import in my line of analysis.
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The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 07:32 PM

asif, i dont think that parsistani or gul agha have claimed that tajiks are majority. first of all there is no majority greoup in afghanistan, we have the largest and second largest group which is pashtoon and tajik.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 01:56 PM

View Postasif1986, on 06 April 2011 - 11:22 AM, said:

Parsistani,Why do tajiks want partition of afghanistan when they constitute majority in unified afghanistan.


Yes, you are right. Unofficially, Tajiks are at least 40% (I already posted clearly sources, academic sources written by EUROPEANS) but why not? Once I wrote that in the medicine it is clear that a body which is hurted to 30% it will 100% die. Pashtuns are the sick part of Awghanistan. We see everyday how K***madarZaia Pashtun Jews are doing their best for a devision. Why such a stupid and sense-less question? Death to every Pashtun!
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 06:06 PM

View PostParsistani, on 08 April 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

Yes, you are right. Unofficially, Tajiks are at least 40% (I already posted clearly sources, academic sources written by EUROPEANS) but why not? Once I wrote that in the medicine it is clear that a body which is hurted to 30% it will 100% die. Pashtuns are the sick part of Awghanistan. We see everyday how K***madarZaia Pashtun Jews are doing their best for a devision. Why such a stupid and sense-less question? Death to every Pashtun!

could you post the link/source?
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 07:31 PM

View PostSohrab, on 08 April 2011 - 07:06 PM, said:

could you post the link/source?


I am not able and I won´t do it again, Sohrab Jan. Most of my posted articles are PDF files. Everyone can quickly safe them. If you didn´t it´s not my fault. Wait till they are used on Wikipedia or somewhere as references.
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Posted 14 April 2011 - 03:08 AM

Pedram is currently in Paris and has no such plans to appear with Dostum.
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