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Is Marshal Fahim going to assassinate KharZai and his Pashtunist GANGS?

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 12:34 PM

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پلان خروج از افغانستان، وقوع کودتای نظامی را میسر می سازد

منتشر شده در هفته نامۀ انفورماسیون کانادا/ ترجمه: از محمد یوسف

يكشنبه 8 مه 2011, بوسيله ى محمد یوسف

هفته نامۀ انفورماسیون کشور دنمارک بتاریخ ۳۰ اپریل ۲۰۱۱ مضمونی را در مورد پیامد های احتمالی خروج قوت های ناتواز افغانستان به نشر سپرده است که ترجمۀ آن چنین است.

پلان خروج ( Exitplan ) وقوع کودتای نظامی را میسر مسازد. برمبنای علایم موجود کار شناسان امور افغانستان هوشدار می‌دهند اینکه توجه مفرط غرب درساختن قوای نیرومند امنیتی در افغانستان خطر وقوع کودتای نظامی را میتواند در قبال داشته باشد. راپور های محرم منابع استخباراتی حکایت از آن دارند که معاون اول رئیس جمهور کرزی پلانهای در زمینه ی راه اندازی کودتا علیه حکومت را داشته است.

خروج از افغانستان Exit Afghanistan از:

ایمیل روتبول Emil Rottbøll

سیبستیان گیردینگ Sebastian Gjerding

چرلوده اوگارد Charlotte Aagaard

و انتون گهست Anton Geist

ائتلاف- ناتو با تمام توان تلاش می‌ورزند، نیروی امنیتی قوی در افغانستان بسازند تا آنها الی سال ۲۰۱۴افغانستان را ترک نمایند اما کارشناسان بر مبنای علایمی هوشدار می‌دهند که وجود کنترول ضعیف سیاسی بر نیروهای امنیتی میتواند منجر به کودتای نظامی گردد.

انفورماسیون Information با داشتن د سترسی به راپور های منابع استخباراتی معتبر امریکائی خاطر نشان می سازد ،اینکه وضعیت سیاسی در افغانستان بر تهداب ضعیف و شکننده استوار میباشد.این راپور ها یک بخشی از همان ۱۴۸۲۱ راپور استخبارات نظامی امریکا است که انفورماتسیون Information ازطریق ویکی لیکس بدان دسترسی حاصل نموده است. راپور های متذکره اشاره بدان دارند که فهیم خان معاون اول رئیس جمهور در تفاهم با طالبان پلانهای را در سازماندهی کودتا علیه حکومتی که خود یک بخش آنست در دستور کار خویش داشته است.

پیدر ویگو یکوبسن Peter Viggo Jakobsen استاد منجمنت واداره در دانشگاه کپنهاگن میتواند کاملأ بــــه ساده گی بنابر وجود کنترول ضعیف نظام ملکی بر اردو تصور وقوع کودتای نظامی را تائید نماید.

او میگوید« وقتی ما از افغانستان خارج می‌شویم باید افغانستان از لحاظ نظامی و ملکی به پای خود ایســـتاد باشد. اما بر مبنای معلومات کنونی دربخش نظامی کارهای انجام شده است ولی در قسمت اسسات ملکی نظام افغانستان به پا های خود متکی نیست که این خود نمایانگر سریع عدم تعادل میباشد. »

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پیدا دهل ترولسن Peter Dahl Thruelsen کار شناس امور افغانستان دراکادمی نظامی کشور دنمــــارک باور دارد اینکه بعد از خروج غرب از افغانستان در سال ۲۰۱۴ جنگ‌ها میان محورهای محــــلی قــد رت اجتناب نا پذیر است او می افزاید اینکه خطر جدی انحلال خود به خودی اردو متناسب به منافع اهرامهای مختلف قدرت در افغانستان به مراتب بیشتر است نسبت به اینکه این اردودرعقب منافع کودتای جمعـــــــی قرار گیرد. زیرا اردو در افغانستان یک اردوی نو پا ونو بنیاد است و کنترول سیاسی بر این اردو ازهما ن آغاز تا کنون کاملاً ضعیف بوده است.

مسئلهً پلان کودتا توسط خان از یک راپو مختصر استخباراتی در سال ۲۰۰۶ که در آن از بر گذاری جلســهً که درآن فهیم خان وسایر رهبران قبلی ائتلاف شمال توافق کرده‌اند تا نیروهای تحت امر شان را تجهز نمایند و منتظر هدایت جنرال فهیم مبنی بر تعویض حکومت فعلی به یک حکومت مجاهدین باشند افشا گردیده است.

جورریت کارینــگه Jorrit Karinga از سازمان غیر وابسته ICOS در پاسخ به پرسشی می افزاید.

اینکه راپور های اسخباراتی میتوانند اشتباه و نادرست باشند ولی اگر راپور های متذکره صحت داشته باشند نیز جای تعجبی ندارد زیرا رهبران افغانی جنریشن فهیم خان مانند او« وحشت » وتوصل به زور را در حل مشکلات سیاسی مشروع می دانند.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 06:42 PM

I dont understand why you feel threatened by Karzai.
He appears highly unassertive.
I frankly dont think he poses any threat to us.

He is little more than a puppet anyhow; his orders come from elsewhere. He wouldnt be able to push his "pashtunist" (lol) agenda even if he had such an agenda.
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

Bakhtiari Proverb
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 05:51 PM

Dorood,

I am not threatend by Kharzai. Kharzai is just a puppet as you write. He serves the interests of others including ours. He is also not a fascist, just a tribalist. I just want to have him off from the sit. He does not take us anywhere and we will keep backward with him and his gang. Beeing backward means also for us beeing or staying weak.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 05:03 PM

View PostParsistani, on 11 May 2011 - 12:51 PM, said:

Dorood,

I am not threatend by Kharzai. Kharzai is just a puppet as you write. He serves the interests of others including ours. He is also not a fascist, just a tribalist. I just want to have him off from the sit. He does not take us anywhere and we will keep backward with him and his gang. Beeing backward means also for us beeing or staying weak.


Dorood,

ah, now i see where you're coming from.

I do agree that he is not the type of man afghanistan needs right now.
However, i tend to see him as something of a non-issue; he has very little power to do anything, good or bad.

Nato troops aside, the funds that the US is pumping into the country mean that the US is essentially able to control everything in the country.
The is the newest chapter of western neo-imperialism; they turn countries into aid addicts and then thereby rob them of their sovereignty.

Iraq will have an easier time breaking away from this sort of control because it has independent access to petrodollars but Afghanistan will need to fight an uphill battle.
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

Bakhtiari Proverb
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 06:50 PM

Well, in our case I would accept neo-imperialism than Talibanism or pure Pashtunism atmosphere on my country.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 07:53 PM

View PostParsistani, on 13 May 2011 - 01:50 PM, said:

Well, in our case I would accept neo-imperialism than Talibanism or pure Pashtunism atmosphere on my country.


It doesnt have to be either one or the other

The pashtuns in Afghanistan and the Uzbeks in Uzbekistan are a disease of the skin, or perhaps a disease of the limbs.
But the westerners are what jalal ale Ahmad called "a cancer of the soul"

The Uzbeks may try to change the demographic makeup of certain Tajiks districts in eastern Uzbekistan and the Pashtuns may rename districts in Afghanistan.
However, the westerners murder entire peoples from the inside out. They literally gnaw away at the soul.

They commit cultural genocide on a global scale and they cant be fought through conventional means.
If you attempt to resist you will be branded a reactionary, a fundamentalist, a feudalist and even a terrorist.
Distinctly western cultural values are packaged under the labels of "freedom" and "human rights" and are shoved down your throat
All the while, a gun is held to your head...a gun loaded not with bullets but with economic sanctions, military aid and assistance loans.
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

Bakhtiari Proverb
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:01 PM

Well, you can believe me that if the western would attack us as non-Pashtuns we had already attacked them back and fought against in the north, too. They wouldn´t have a second time to breath. If they kill than they kill in the Pashtun regions and we do not care abt that. Pashtuns deserve much worser things than just a death. Death means for them nothing and in general getting free from something or someone.
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:15 PM

View PostParsistani, on 13 May 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

Well, you can believe me that if the western would attack us as non-Pashtuns we had already attacked them back and fought against in the north, too. They wouldn´t have a second time to breath. If they kill than they kill in the Pashtun regions and we do not care abt that. Pashtuns deserve much worser things than just a death. Death means for them nothing and in general getting free from something or someone.


You are right. This isnt your fight and perhaps the best way to keep Nato troops out of the Tajik regions is to keep them in the pashtun areas.

But the whole situation reminds me of the saying "In avoiding the pot hole, dont fall in the well!"
هیچ وقت به خدا نگو یه مشکل بزرگ دارم
به مشکل بگو من یه خدای بزرگ دارم


Go tell the wolves that although the father has been killed,
The father's gun is with us still
Tell them that although all the men of the tribe have been killed,
There is a young boy in the cradle still

Bakhtiari Proverb
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:24 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk...aqiqi_gel.shtml read the following
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