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Posted 04 March 2008 - 12:26 PM

[quote=rooyintan;6802]har nov estefadeh az nam-e Khorasan baraye keshvari mostaghel, mojebe tafragheye bishtar beyn parsizabanan khahad shod chon Iran dar on zaman tamamiyate arzi ro dar khatar khahad did chon neshan khahad dad ke bali parsizabanane dar keshvare mostaghele khorasan khahane 3 ostan Khorasan dar Iran hastand o hamin mozih shayad jangi beyne Iran o Khorasan-e mostaghal rah biyoftad. Khaheshmand hastam az nam-e Khorasan baraye keshvari mostaghel estefadeh nakonid. Ma parsizabanan bayad motahed bashim na inke beyne khodeman tafraghe biyandazim.

Tar tarikh hamchin senario-yi didim, zamani ke keshvare khodmokhtare Azerbaijan dar sale 1918 taasis shod. In nam yek nami strategiki bood chon dar on zaman (Araniha va Shervaniha, ke keshvare khodmokhtare Azerbaijan ro be vojood avardeh boodand khahane Azerbaijan-e Iran boodand). Midoonestid ke nam-e Azerbaijan faghat baraye sarzimini ke dar Iran vaghe hast bood(manzooram Tabriz,Ardebil o inha hast), baku, ganjeh, digar shahr-ha dar velayate Arran o Shervan boodand.

Dowlate Taliban ham az name pak-e khorasan estefadeh mikard o hatta khahane khorasan dar Iran boodand, hatta ta marze ostan ma ham hojoom avardand amma pasdarane Irani az marze por gohar-e negahdari kardand. Laanat bar Taliban!

Nam-e Khavaran nami besiyar monaseb khahad bood baraye keshvari khod mokhtar. Az on chi behtar khahad bood inke faghat hokoomat dar Afghanistan taghyir konad o nam-e keshvar az Afghanistan be Khavaran avaz shavad, yek vajab az khak-e pak-e mamlekatetoon nabayad az dast dahid.[/quote]

shobheh daram, Roointan Jan, shobheh daram keh in kar beshavad. Parsiyan-e Khorasan-e Iran hoviyat-e irani-ye kheili qavi darand, va goman namikonam, ki mowjoodeyat-e baz yek Khorasan-e parsi baes-e moshkeleha beshavad. ideoluji-ye keshvar-e mostaqel-e Khorasan dar beyn-e parsiyan-e Afghnestan alan kheile qavi ast va kheili khob promotion shodeh.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=rooyintan;6802]har nov estefadeh az nam-e Khorasan baraye keshvari mostaghel, mojebe tafragheye bishtar beyn parsizabanan khahad shod chon Iran dar on zaman tamamiyate arzi ro dar khatar khahad did chon neshan khahad dad ke bali parsizabanane dar keshvare mostaghele khorasan khahane 3 ostan Khorasan dar Iran hastand o hamin mozih shayad jangi beyne Iran o Khorasan-e mostaghal rah biyoftad. Khaheshmand hastam az nam-e Khorasan baraye keshvari mostaghel estefadeh nakonid. Ma parsizabanan bayad motahed bashim na inke beyne khodeman tafraghe biyandazim.

Tar tarikh hamchin senario-yi didim, zamani ke keshvare khodmokhtare Azerbaijan dar sale 1918 taasis shod. In nam yek nami strategiki bood chon dar on zaman (Araniha va Shervaniha, ke keshvare khodmokhtare Azerbaijan ro be vojood avardeh boodand khahane Azerbaijan-e Iran boodand). Midoonestid ke nam-e Azerbaijan faghat baraye sarzimini ke dar Iran vaghe hast bood(manzooram Tabriz,Ardebil o inha hast), baku, ganjeh, digar shahr-ha dar velayate Arran o Shervan boodand.

Dowlate Taliban ham az name pak-e khorasan estefadeh mikard o hatta khahane khorasan dar Iran boodand, hatta ta marze ostan ma ham hojoom avardand amma pasdarane Irani az marze por gohar-e negahdari kardand. Laanat bar Taliban!

Nam-e Khavaran nami besiyar monaseb khahad bood baraye keshvari khod mokhtar. Az on chi behtar khahad bood inke faghat hokoomat dar Afghanistan taghyir konad o nam-e keshvar az Afghanistan be Khavaran avaz shavad, yek vajab az khak-e pak-e mamlekatetoon nabayad az dast dahid.[/QUOTE]
Man ham dar Khorasan nam gereftane sarzamine "Afghanestan" xatari ra nemibinam. Iran taze xorsand ham xahad shod, bavar kon.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 07:21 PM

Durud,

I just want to make clear one thing here regarding Tajikistan, Khorasan and Iran. I don't see any difference among Persians of Iran, Khorasan, and Tajikistan, as well as when it comes to the matter of borders and independence. I have noticed that some of you got my point wrong, so just would like to make sure that you understand me right. When I said independent Khorasan, it means independent with all major cities from south-east of modern Afghanistan, Pashtunistan. No matter what independence will have all these three parts, whether be it Khorasan, Iran, and Tajikistan, they are all one body. Please don't get me radically about Khorasan's independence, that it might bring more separation rather than unity. I see the creation of Khorasan, as separation from Pashtunistan and unity of Iran, Khorasan, and Tajikistan, as one country, with one language, one military power, best education and well being of whole society.

Thank you. If you have any questions/comments/concerns please post them, that would be nice to talk about.

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[quote=Rostam;6800][quote=Afrasiab;6799]
Yes Afrasiab Aziz, that should be the last result! But we have to achieve it step for step! :) [/quote]
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 03:43 AM

Yes, no difference really. I hope one day in the future we will all be living in one country, but I know it is only a dream now. Once we are all one nation again, we will get back Samarqand, Bukhara, I hope and more (Marv, etc.). But these are dangerous times with turkeys of Turkey and israel and usa all trying to destroy iran because mullahs are challenging them ... they may nuke Iran if it moves its finger towards our dear compatriots in Afg and TJ and UZ and TK to save them. It is a tough world out there ... with turkeys and jews all screaming and praying to uncle SAM - see below how turkeys aggressively obey their masters:

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[quote=PORS;6815]Durud,

I just want to make clear one thing here regarding Tajikistan, Khorasan and Iran. I don't see any difference among Persians of Iran, Khorasan, and Tajikistan, as well as when it comes to the matter of borders and independence. I have noticed that some of you got my point wrong, so just would like to make sure that you understand me right. When I said independent Khorasan, it means independent with all major cities from south-east of modern Afghanistan, Pashtunistan. No matter what independence will have all these three parts, whether be it Khorasan, Iran, and Tajikistan, they are all one body. Please don't get me radically about Khorasan's independence, that it might bring more separation rather than unity. I see the creation of Khorasan, as separation from Pashtunistan and unity of Iran, Khorasan, and Tajikistan, as one country, with one language, one military power, best education and well being of whole society.

Thank you. If you have any questions/comments/concerns please post them, that would be nice to talk about.

Piruz bimoned,



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[quote=Rostam;6800][/quote]
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 07:12 AM

Afghanistan nabayad be 2 keshvar taghsim shavad. Agar Pashtunestan be vojood biyad tamamiyate arzi Pakistan dar khatar khahad bood. Vaghti Pashtunestan mostaghel shavad onvaght Baluch-ha bishtar faaliyat khahand kard ke Baluchistan be vojood ayad o dar oon moghe Iran az nazare tamamiyate arzi dar khatar khahad oftad chon Baluch-ha khastare keshvare mostaghale Baluchistan khahand bood.

Behtarin ravash inast ke Afghanistan faghat namash be Khavaran taghyir dade shavad va hokoomatesh avaz shavad, onvaght Iran o Tajikistan o Khavaran mitavanand yek Etehadiye Parsi be vojood avarand shabihe EU.

Har nov taghyir dar marz-haye keshvar-ha mantaghe ro be khatar miyandazad o jang o setiz aghaz mikonad.
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 08:14 AM

[quote=rooyintan;6839]Afghanistan nabayad be 2 keshvar taghsim shavad. Agar Pashtunestan be vojood biyad tamamiyate arzi Pakistan dar khatar khahad bood. Vaghti Pashtunestan mostaghel shavad onvaght Baluch-ha bishtar faaliyat khahand kard ke Baluchistan be vojood ayad o dar oon moghe Iran az nazare tamamiyate arzi dar khatar khahad oftad chon Baluch-ha khastare keshvare mostaghale Baluchistan khahand bood.

Behtarin ravash inast ke Afghanistan faghat namash be Khavaran taghyir dade shavad va hokoomatesh avaz shavad, onvaght Iran o Tajikistan o Khavaran mitavanand yek Etehadiye Parsi be vojood avarand shabihe EU.

Har nov taghyir dar marz-haye keshvar-ha mantaghe ro be khatar miyandazad o jang o setiz aghaz mikonad.[/quote]

Az nigahi manafei geopolitikii Eran nazari shoma durust ast, vale ma Tajikha dar barabari manafei umumiiranivu umumiaryai hamchonin manafei qavmii khudra darem. Concepti "Khorasan" barai ma Tajikha behtarin concept ittihadsaz ast va ma anra raho nakhahim kard. "Khorasan" - maghzi ideolojii Tajikhai mintaqa ast. Na "Tajikistan", na "Khavara", na digaro digar conceptha nametavanad jayguzini "Khorasan" shavad.

Dar mavridi Pashtunistan nazari banda in ast keh hamzistii ma Tajikha bo Pashtunha tanha barai mushkil ejad khahad kard. Ma bayad ba Pashtunha barai taasisi Pashtunistan komak konim. Sarnavishti Pakistan barai ma duvvumdaraja ast, ya'ne harchi keh in taqsimat ba bor ovarad barai ma Tajikha khatare nadarad, zera Pashtunistan va Balojistan mustaqil barai ma kishvari dust khahayd bud.

Dar mavridi Eran man fikr namekonam keh miyani Khorasan va Eran mushkile ejad shavad. Taasisi Khorasan tanha bar naf'i Eran khahad bud. Tanha Khorasani muttahid metavanad ba Eran ittihadi farsizabananra barpa konad va digar qavmu kishvarhai iranitabarra zeri taasir biyarad.
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 08:34 AM

[quote=Afrasiab;6846]Az nigahi manafei geopolitikii Eran nazari shoma durust ast, vale ma Tajikha dar barabari manafei umumiiranivu umumiaryai hamchonin manafei qavmii khudra darem. Concepti "Khorasan" barai ma Tajikha behtarin concept ittihadsaz ast va ma anra raho nakhahim kard. "Khorasan" - maghzi ideolojii Tajikhai mintaqa ast. Na "Tajikistan", na "Khavara", na digaro digar conceptha nametavanad jayguzini "Khorasan" shavad.

Dar mavridi Pashtunistan nazari banda in ast keh hamzistii ma Tajikha bo Pashtunha tanha barai mushkil ejad khahad kard. Ma bayad ba Pashtunha barai taasisi Pashtunistan komak konim. Sarnavishti Pakistan barai ma duvvumdaraja ast, ya'ne harchi keh in taqsimat ba bor ovarad barai ma Tajikha khatare nadarad, zera Pashtunistan va Balojistan mustaqil barai ma kishvari dust khahayd bud.

Dar mavridi Eran man fikr namekonam keh miyani Khorasan va Eran mushkile ejad shavad. Taasisi Khorasan tanha bar naf'i Eran khahad bud. Tanha Khorasani muttahid metavanad ba Eran ittihadi farsizabananra barpa konad va digar qavmu kishvarhai iranitabarra zeri taasir biyarad.[/quote]

agar Baluchistane mostaghel taasis shavad, Iran yek-chaharom az khakash ro az dast midahad, agar Khorasane mostaghel cheshme tamaa be 3 ostaneh Khorasan-e-Razavi,Khorasan-e-Shomali va Khorasan-e-Jonoubi bebandad 1/4 digar az Iran khahad raft digar Irani nemimanad.

Har che keshvarhaye nov taasis shavad dar donya, moshkelat, jang o setiz bishtar mishavad. Shoma Yugoslavia-ye sabegh ro negah konid alan Kosovo ham mostaghel shod, mibinid chetor mardom mesle sag o gorbeh be ham miyoftand.

Az khodrazi boodane parsizabanan dar Afghanistan baraye tashkile keshvare khodmokhtar yaani naboodiye Iran o Pakistan.

Pashtun-ha va Parsizabanan bayad be zendegi solh-amiz ba ham dast yaband na inke jang o setizi jadid dar mantaghe rah biyandazand.

Chand vaghte dige agar keshvarhaye nov tond o tond taasis shavand, Irani nemimanad chon arab-ha dar Khuzestan khahane khodmokhtare Arabestan khahand shod, Turkaman-ha khahane Turkamanestan-e Jonoubi, Azari-ha khahane Azarbaijane Jonoubi va Baluch-ha khahane baluchistan-e gharbi o Kord-ha khahane kordestan... tamame inha yaani Iran hich.. chi mimone az iran faghat Tehran,Gilan o Mazandaran,Esfehan,Yazd,Fars,Lorestan o Chaharmahal!!

Aya shoma-ha doost darid Iran az beyn beravad?
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Posted 05 March 2008 - 12:42 PM

[quote=rooyintan;6851]agar Baluchistane mostaghel taasis shavad, Iran yek-chaharom az khakash ro az dast midahad, agar Khorasane mostaghel cheshme tamaa be 3 ostaneh Khorasan-e-Razavi,Khorasan-e-Shomali va Khorasan-e-Jonoubi bebandad 1/4 digar az Iran khahad raft digar Irani nemimanad.

Har che keshvarhaye nov taasis shavad dar donya, moshkelat, jang o setiz bishtar mishavad. Shoma Yugoslavia-ye sabegh ro negah konid alan Kosovo ham mostaghel shod, mibinid chetor mardom mesle sag o gorbeh be ham miyoftand.

Az khodrazi boodane parsizabanan dar Afghanistan baraye tashkile keshvare khodmokhtar yaani naboodiye Iran o Pakistan.

Pashtun-ha va Parsizabanan bayad be zendegi solh-amiz ba ham dast yaband na inke jang o setizi jadid dar mantaghe rah biyandazand.

Chand vaghte dige agar keshvarhaye nov tond o tond taasis shavand, Irani nemimanad chon arab-ha dar Khuzestan khahane khodmokhtare Arabestan khahand shod, Turkaman-ha khahane Turkamanestan-e Jonoubi, Azari-ha khahane Azarbaijane Jonoubi va Baluch-ha khahane baluchistan-e gharbi o Kord-ha khahane kordestan... tamame inha yaani Iran hich.. chi mimone az iran faghat Tehran,Gilan o Mazandaran,Esfehan,Yazd,Fars,Lorestan o Chaharmahal!!

Aya shoma-ha doost darid Iran az beyn beravad?[/quote]


Eran ba khahishi ma Tajikha namitavanad az beyn beravad. :) Va ma Tajikha hargiz doost nadarim keh Eran az beyn beravad.

Baradar qand, Rooyintan jan, concepti "Khorasan" , ya'ne "Tajikistani bozorg", projei shahid Masoud bud va in conceptra dar Tehran niz barkhe az quvvoi suyasi dar beyni akhundha janibdari mikonand. Concepti "Khorasan" yak concepti sirf paniranism ast. Shoma dar mouridi taasisi "Khorasan" va khatari an ba Eran ishtibah mikoned. Eran kishvare nest keh ba khahishi Tajikha va ya Balojha ya Turkomanha taqsim shavad. Eran bozigari aslii mintaqa hast va sarnavishti masaili mintaqa
dar Tehran hallo fasl meshavad. Concepti "Khorasan" niz tanha ba komaki Tehran piyada khahad shud.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 10:42 AM

[quote=shinno;6693]so mr parsistani are you saying that pashtu is a mixture of other languages and has no words of its own. :confused: so if i give you a few words can you please tell me which language these pashtu words belong to. tell me which language is this word WOR=FIRE taken from.
of course pashto is influenced by other languages like persian which was the language of government in khorassan. persian in iran is influenced by arabic and arabic in turn has been influenced by persian. its totally natural for languages to influence each other.
pashto doesnt have a very long written recorded history like persian becuase persians where more urbanized than pashtuns but it dosent mean pashto didn't exist before it was recorded in written form.

if you check in the description of this video you will see what it has to do with pashtuns. it says pashtuns speak an iranian language.[/quote]

''Wor'' is neither iranian nor indo-germanic (cose to feuer, fire, fira..) its only a chance that it stand close to the english and german fire/feuer because in the old-german (including modern english) the word for fire was ''ire'' or only ''ei''. Its a fact that Pashtuns are mostly of Non.Iranian decandants that became mixed with the native aryan population of India and Pakistan. All those foreigners had something in common with the native population so the base of a common interests were there-->nomadism. Nomadism has mostly, no matter where located, the same traditions and belief. All those foreigners became with the time one with pre-awghanic population and today they are known as Pashatins. You can see how strongly Pashtuns are influenced by mongols and they even have special words of these languages and some tribes have still names that goes back to the wild homosexula tribes of chingis khans tribes with some difference today. Also turkish tribes with their sub-groups like Ghalzais/Chaldchi ->Khalji and their turkish brothers Suris, Luris.... and whats with those arabs tribes that became Pashtunized-->Banochi f.ex. ??? With the time Pashtuntolana changed/deformed Persian and Arabic words that those words are today not seeable more while words like Jirga, ane, loya, mana, ... which have mongolian and turkish origine are still existing as ''Pashtun words'', a result of uneducation. All these changes were made in the 20 century, from 1930 till today. Why we Tajiks differ from them and why didnt those foreigners prefered us because of our superiour culture and custums but only Pashtuns in the entire half-continent? Think about it.
Pashto has its literature by uneducated nomads that couldnt write and read and later during Moghuls the language became a base. Thats also a reason why Pashto has not a higher language like Parsi/Partava/Palavi and other iranian languages but mostly Persian. The first middle age Pashtun nationalist that wanted to ''reform'' Awghanic and wiping persian words from a language thats life was concerned on those foreign languages was Mirza Arslan Habib, a coward nomads son of northen Quetta. Today, only Awghan language is of iranian ''origine'', blinded the rest languages completely out while theyself are not of iranian origine, similar to Hazara which are pre-dominantly of Mongolian origine while their language is of iranian origine. The only problem we have is that a dna test is not possible to find out who really Awghans are because with the time 1000 of nations of different origine settled as nomads on their ground. A very good example ghive us Vihara Mihira that say the Avaganas are allied tribes of chinese, huns, sveta hunas (Hephtalithes) and i also provided you with information that those sveata hunas were of turkish origine while the iranian sveta hunas stayed in Tajikistan and Afgh. There were some dna test but those were not specific enough and specially not tribalic which is more important. For example for some view month there was again another dna test about Pashtun origine in Peshawar (only Peshawar) and the resulst showed they have also dravidian, non-iranian origine (hg2) with a high mark of hg3 which was ''punjabi''. Alone their phenotype show us how far they are from beeing iranian. There is a new documentary about the jewish part of their origine and it is very interesting to see how they are close to jews by some of their customs and even names (9 tribes, mostly sub-groups) and ''by chance'' these 9 tribes thats name where close to jewish tribes had a very strong propensity to their jewish custums than anyone of Pashtun tribes. Remember, it were the Pashtuns who brought even Nadir Afshar a Thora as gift when he reached their territory and not Tajiks or Indians. Visit Jawedan.com there you will even see the pro-jewish proofs about them. Its like Kurds. They are ethnically neither iranians nor semits..here we have the same problems. Pashtuns, MODERN Pashtuns are neither Turks, Iranians, Mongols, Jews, Indians... but a mix, an own ''race'' created by those above. That Awghans speak an ''iranian'' language is largely another question than if they are ethnically ''iranians''. You understand what i mean? Are an African Iranian because he speak clearly Farsi? the high of ergatives showes how strongly they are influenced by Indian nations and dravidians. Remember, originally only Dravidian language, Tibetan, Chinese and Mongolian language have ergatives and not Indo-Aryanic and iranic languages.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 10:54 AM

[quote=Gul agha;6712]Pashtun is a colition of different tribes and ethnicities who share a common language and culture. The three major groups is Durrani,Ghilzai, and Karlanri. the Durranis/Abdalis are infact Iranic and they were Hephthalites (Eptalis). The Eptalis who were from the Saka tribe took the saka language to the sub continent and this became "Pashto". The Ghilzais or Khilij are Turkic and they were never known as Pashtun until three centuries ago, Even Pashtuns believe this theory. The Karlanris are Indo-Aryans and Drividians or Jewish. The Jewish theory was started during the Lodhi dynasty when Ibrahim Lodhi told his Kateb (Nematullah) to write a Book on this(Maghzan e Afghan).[/quote]

Hephtalithes were not Sakas (Sakh). Sakas were Iranians who settled in Sistan and Helmand and a part of them moved to Rajastan and another part became one with Persians of Iran and Afgh. The H. were dominantly of Tocharian origine, non-iranians but of Indo-European origine who were allied with some turkish tribes. Unlik iranians who speak a satem-language (Sat-100) they spoke a kentum-language (kent/Hent/Hundert/hundred-100) and those Hephtalithes settled in Sogd and Balkh and Kabul and the Indo-H. in Kashmir and Lahor. The H. you mean were of turkish origine. Read my post about them with their translation. The Sakas spoke an north-eastern iranian language, even a dialect of bactrian, an eastern dialect (Khotani->southwest china) while Pashtuns speak an SOUTH EASTERN ''Iranian'' language which differ from the other iranian dialects and languages and Maghzan e Awghan was only written to explain the names origine. Awghan->Ashvayan->Ashvakan->horse people/nomads
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 11:01 AM

[quote=Rika Khana;6726]rooyintan jan, you are good person and thats why you think everyone is good. personally it is not important for me if the pushtoons are iranic or not, they are human being and i respect them, they have to respect us back,because it cant be one sided. you are right, not all pushtoons are bad, good and bad are everywhere and among all ethnic groups, for instance we have got a pushtoon fellow here called Shino, he is good and understading person, wish they were all like him. our concern is injustice being done to non pushtoons in Afghanistan, not the pushtoons themselves, they have got every right to speak their language the way they want and practice their culture, it is fine with us, but we can never ever accept if they tell us how to practice our own culture, how to speak our own language and impose all their things on us. that is gros and not acceptable to us.[/quote]

95% of Pashtuns are nomads/Talibanis/Arabized and dogs, only 5% live in cities with us and 50% of these 5% is still animalic and nationalistic with their 95% nomads. Its time to make them an end in a country where they are foreigners, uncivilizised dogs with a dirty culture which is even against the own race. The CIA says at least 16% of Pakistans population are supproting TALIBAN and mostly on nwfp ..now tell me how many is that if we know P.s population makes 160 mio.? How many Pashtuns were Taliban and have Taliban/jewish/arabic mentality? 90% and MORE. Mostly those nomads and Ghalzais in Kanadahar with their brothers in eastern Afghanistan AND EVEN IN KABUL THESE DIRTY APES ARE TRYING TO MAKE TROUBLE. ITS TIME WE TAJIKS TAKE A BOMB AND CLEAN OUR CITIES FROM EVERY DIRT THAT KEEP US 5000000 YEARS IN THE PAST!!!! ITS NOT A QUESTOON OF LEADERSHIP BUT A QUESTION OF MENTALITY AND WE KNOW THESE BASTARDS (NEARLY ALL OF THEM) WERE ALLWAYS LOOKING HOW THEY CAN KEEP US WEAK AND HOW THEY CAN CUT US FROM OUR IDENTITY AND MAYBE GET DIRTY TAILED HOMOSEXUAL AWGHANS WITH JEWISH FACES; BIG NOSES; DIRTY BLACK FLAT HEADS AND DIRTY COLE DARK EYES!!!!! YOU TAJIKS ARE THE SONS OF JAMSHID. TAKE THE SWORD AND REVANGE YOUR ANCESTORS YOUR HISTORY YOUR BLOOD YOUR MOTHER FATHER SISTER BROTHER. IF YOU DONT TAHT THAN YOU ARE REALLY BENAMOOS PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO SHAME NOR HONOUR. HOW MANY TIMES THEY KILLED A PART OF YOU BY CALLING ISLAM? NOW IT IS YOUR TURN TO TAKE REVANGE BY THE SAME THINK AND CALLING ISLAM AS OUR LEADING BOOK. IF A PERSON KILL SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL HIM RIGHT BACK!!! TAKE THE ARABIC/AWGHANIC MENTALITY!! YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NON-SENSES. LETS DO THAT AND THAT. ARE YOU SICK? SOLONG ONLY A SINGLE DIRTY PASHTUN IS IN KHURASANZAMEEN ALIVE HE WILL BE YOUR ENEMY AND WILL BE ALLWAYS AGAINST YOUR INTERESTS AND THE HUMENKIND. THERE IS NO PASHTUN THAT RESPECTS YOU ONLY IF YOU CALL YOURSELF A DIRTY PIG THAN THEY WILL RESPECT YOU. SEE HOW MANY OF THEM WERE PROTESTING WHEN BBC PUBLICIZED THE FACISTIC ACTIONS OF THEIR MASTERS. THEY WANT YOU SEEING BLEEDING, THEY WANT YOU CALLING YOUR LANGUAGE PASHTU AND YOUR CULTURE AWGHANI ALSO THESE RATS HAVE NO CULTURE ONLY A DIRTY MONGOLIAN CUSTUM CALLED PASHAITANWALI. EVERY MF PASHTUN WANT YOU CALLING YOUR LANGUAGE DARI WHILE IT IS FARSI THEY WANT YOU TO DEILLUNIZE BUT YOU STILL SLEEP. GET UP. WHERE WERE WE NOW IF OUR ANCESTORS WERE LIKE YOU GUYS??? WE CANT LIVE WITH ANIMALS ONLY WITH THOSE ARE READY TO LEARN FROM US AND THE WORLD GOOD THINGS FOR A BETTER LIFE BUT THESE DOGS DONT WANT. THEY ONLY SEE THEIR OWN BENEFITS. PASHTUNS WERE ALLWAYS THE BAD PART OF AN EMPIRE; NATION; WORLD only Pashtuns. While the rest had to resistance these bastards.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 11:19 AM

[quote=Rostam;6746]Are you kiddin me? ??? ? ??? ? ??? ? ??? ?///

Daud changed the name of our language into Dari
zahir prohibited it, all the other bastard did the same

The Taliban burnt the library of Herat etc etc etc.[/quote]

in Kabul they burned in one weeks 150 000 books, islamic, poetry .... Taliban=90-95%/ 95 1/2% Pashtuns
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 11:21 AM

[quote=Gul agha;6745]Culturally Pashtuns are much closer to Indians than Iranians. The only element that brings them close to us is there language.[/quote]

You speak about Hindkos and Peshawari Pashtuns who who want to be Punjabis (smart people these kind of Awghans).
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 11:28 AM

If i would be the king of Pres. of Afghanistan i would clean the entire country from every Pashtunize Pashtun, including Kabul. Adding Tajikistan and supporting india, destroying Peshawar, buring all Pashtun books, supporting Balochis against Punjabis and dirtx Awgahns to get independent than i would call Khurasan again up and Inshallah, the day of Tajik Militarism leading ( for ca. 30 years) will come soon. Its the only way to protect our nation.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 12:01 PM

[quote=shinno;6696]im pashtun but i have to agree that the majority of pashtuns are not educated and they are very easy to manipulate. we can solve our problems by communicating with each other with respect even if we don't agree. without respect there will only be more problems for both of us unfortunately.

Most educated pashtuns know persian is not an alien language and have embraced it. i think some pashtun nationalists, in their efforts to impose pashto on other people have forgotten how to behave rationally and they are following blind nationalism which is very dangerous. Pashtuns and tajiks both have to undrestand that these modern international borders have been imposed on us by colonialists. pashtuns shouldn't object to persians having close relation with persians of iran and tajiks shouldn't call pashtuns pakis if pashtuns of afghanistan want to have close relations with pashtuns of pakistan.[/quote]

sure they know but they want to make it to an alien language (that makes 100% of PigToonzais)...and there is no ''some'' PigToon nationalists but millions.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 04:16 PM

Please be cool-headed in discussing this kind of issues.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 05:59 PM

Parsistani you are criticizing pashtuns for being anti Persian and burning your books but at the same time you are acting just like them.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 06:19 PM

[quote=Gul agha;6981]Parsistani you are criticizing pashtuns for being anti Persian and burning your books but at the same time you are acting just like them.[/quote]

sure, its time to send them back where they were before us. We need to delete every SINGLE PERSIAN WORD in their language and kill every lie about the (regional )origine of ''donkey fart'' and everything which is close to it like they tried it for 200 years along. I wrote above, take revange for everything!!! Islam give us the right, our ancestors give it, our history and our modern Tajiks that suffer everyday. They dont earn the love of Tajiks, their lanhuage, their culture, their brothership, sistership, their food, their names, their kisses, their goddness of heart. WIPE EVERYTHING OF THESE BASTARDS INCLUDING THEMSELF. USE AB AND C WEAPONS LIKE AMERICANS DO IN KUNDUZ AND QANDAHAR. IT S YOUR RIGHT TO DO THAT SINCE THEY ARE FOREIGNERS; THIEVES WHO CAME WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION INTO YOUR HOUSE FOR RAPING KILLING LOOTING .....
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 06:56 PM

[quote=Gul agha;6981]Parsistani you are criticizing pashtuns for being anti Persian and burning your books but at the same time you are acting just like them.[/quote]
NOOO!.......what would you do...if someone hit you in the face? Will you do nothing? Or if you hit him/her back....has someone right...to...disqualify you? and say ''you do the same''.

I 100% stay behind...Parsistani gerami!
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 10:21 PM

[quote=Parsistani;6982]sure, its time to send them back where they were before us. We need to delete every SINGLE PERSIAN WORD in their language and kill every lie about the (regional )origine of ''donkey fart'' and everything which is close to it like they tried it for 200 years along. I wrote above, take revange for everything!!! Islam give us the right, our ancestors give it, our history and our modern Tajiks that suffer everyday. They dont earn the love of Tajiks, their lanhuage, their culture, their brothership, sistership, their food, their names, their kisses, their goddness of heart. WIPE EVERYTHING OF THESE BASTARDS INCLUDING THEMSELF. USE AB AND C WEAPONS LIKE AMERICANS DO IN KUNDUZ AND QANDAHAR. IT S YOUR RIGHT TO DO THAT SINCE THEY ARE FOREIGNERS; THIEVES WHO CAME WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION INTO YOUR HOUSE FOR RAPING KILLING LOOTING .....[/quote]

Man bad konam o to bad mokafat dahi,
Pas farq miyane man o to chist begu?

Omare Khayyam
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