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(1) Samarkand is the name of Tajik language orTurkic language ?
(2) 1-4 century BC, the Khwarezm States belonging to the Iranian language?
(3) saka tribal language of Indo-European languages of India - Iran languages ? Can you tell me some evidence?
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Posted 24 April 2008 - 01:44 PM
[QUOTE=saypidin;8353](1) Samarkand is the name of Tajik language orTurkic language ?
(2) 1-4 century BC, the Khwarezm States belonging to the Iranian language?
(3) saka tribal language of Indo-European languages of India - Iran languages ? Can you tell me some evidence?
I need answers to these questions!
I hope that we quickly satisfied with the answer!
Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]
there are huge number of toponims throughout the Central Asia and East Turkistan that have iranian roots, more specifically east iranian roots, including all major cities like Qashgar, Samarqand, Tashket etc.
"Samarqand" is believed to come from soghdian word "Shmark-kand" that means "busy town". the soghdian word "shmark" has the same root as Persian word "shomordan" (to calculate), or "bishomar" (numerous) , and "kand" is famous soghdian word for the "town".
the population of Khwarezm were "khwaresians" (iranians) even at the times of Biruni (10th century) that is several centuries later that 1-4th CE. khwaresmians have been totally turkizized only in 13-14th centtury. even now the population of Khwaresm have extremely distinct culture and identity within Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan and many-many of them don't consider themselves as "uzbeks" or "turkmens". they are proud to be "khwaresmians".
'saka"people of East Turkistan and Siberia were iranian people closely related to Scythians of Russia and eastern Europe. The words "Saka" is just iranian version of greek word for "scythians". there were a huge territory covered by scythians (sakas), and the easternmost dialect of language they spoke is called by modern linquistics as "saka", although it was one "scythian" language continuum T THt time.
hope this info help you in you emergency.
mofaq bashid.
(2) 1-4 century BC, the Khwarezm States belonging to the Iranian language?
(3) saka tribal language of Indo-European languages of India - Iran languages ? Can you tell me some evidence?
I need answers to these questions!
I hope that we quickly satisfied with the answer!
Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]
there are huge number of toponims throughout the Central Asia and East Turkistan that have iranian roots, more specifically east iranian roots, including all major cities like Qashgar, Samarqand, Tashket etc.
"Samarqand" is believed to come from soghdian word "Shmark-kand" that means "busy town". the soghdian word "shmark" has the same root as Persian word "shomordan" (to calculate), or "bishomar" (numerous) , and "kand" is famous soghdian word for the "town".
the population of Khwarezm were "khwaresians" (iranians) even at the times of Biruni (10th century) that is several centuries later that 1-4th CE. khwaresmians have been totally turkizized only in 13-14th centtury. even now the population of Khwaresm have extremely distinct culture and identity within Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan and many-many of them don't consider themselves as "uzbeks" or "turkmens". they are proud to be "khwaresmians".
'saka"people of East Turkistan and Siberia were iranian people closely related to Scythians of Russia and eastern Europe. The words "Saka" is just iranian version of greek word for "scythians". there were a huge territory covered by scythians (sakas), and the easternmost dialect of language they spoke is called by modern linquistics as "saka", although it was one "scythian" language continuum T THt time.
hope this info help you in you emergency.
mofaq bashid.
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 01:36 PM
[QUOTE=Gul agha;8357](1) Samarqand is a Persian word that is derived from Samara Kanda.
(2) The Khaharazm Shahan were Persianized
(3) Saka language was Indo Iranic in India(modern day pashto).[/QUOTE]
Saka (Sythians, Arians) language was a dialect (nortrh eastern) of Bactrian language and a north eastern dialect of Khotak, therefore linguists also use Khotansaka. A part of Sakas were moving to Rajastan from Sistan when Parthians took control over their country (modern Sistan). Another time they were again driven out by the Tocharians, Kushanas to India. Pashtuns and Pashto are unrelated to Sakas and their language. Pushto didn´t exist before india´s Moghul era. Encyclopedia iranica don´t belive Pashto is older than 500 years but to be ''on the green side'', they also believe Pashto´s chronical birth (cause of ''Puta Khazana which is global disputed) goes back to 900 A.D. Pashto, as an SOUTH EASTERN ''IRANIZED/PERSIANIZED'' language is more related with it´s ergoratives with Dravidian, Indian, Tibetan and Chinese language than with Iranaians. BS
Pashtun bastards are from their aryan line descandants of Ashvakans, a nomadic and small tribe originally from the Sulaiman mountains. Sakas/Sistan was known for it´s high culture and ''desert civilization'' (Sang e Sorghi)....Pashatins are known for nomadism and barbarism..
Afghan and Ashvakan relationship
Numerous scholars of note now believe that the name Afghan has been derived from Sanskrit Ashvaka or Ashvakan (q.v), the Assakenoi of Arrian[33]. This view was propounded by scholars like Dr Christian Lassen [34], Dr J. W. McCrindle [35], M. V. de Saint Martin [36] etc, and has been supported by numerous modern scholars [37] [38] [39]. In Sanskrit, word ashva (Iranian aspa, Prakrit assa) means "horse", and ashvaka (Prakrit assaka) means "horseman" [40], "horse people" [41], "land of horses" [42]
The Afghans should correspondingly have belonged to the Ashvakans of part of modern Pashtunwa and parts of Baluchistan who immigrated as nomads first from the north to the Sulaiman Mountains and in the second Millennium A.D to eastward to north India until Bengal. In Peshawar and its surrounding regions and valleys they replaced the indigenous population of Gakhars and other ethnic indians slowly but for certain and their settled areas Babur mentioned in his Baburnamah as Afghanistan and the people as Afghans. The Afghans as a united nation started their career in the 18th century by serving Persian rulers like Nader Khan Afshari. After his death one of his warlords, Ahmad Khan Abdali called himself Emir of Khurasan and based the first structures of modern Afghanistan which cut eastern Persia from it´s west part. Also in earlier time of the medi-evil some tribes of turkco-mongolian origine who belong today to the nation of Pashtuns began making career as slaves of the Persian Ghurids and perso-turkish Ghurids of India and ruled after the death of the Persian Ghurid general Aybak (himself of turkic origine) the Indo-Ghurid Empire further as Slave-Dynasty known also as Mamluk dynasty of Delhi. See: Lodhi dynasty and Khilji dynasty .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashvayana
Samarqand is the middle Persian word for Marakanda and it is a pure Persian word. Samarqand is one of the oldest countries/ cities in the world. Turks are unrelated with Samarqand, also with Bukhara.
In Khwarezmia, still Tajiks live proudly and dirty tailed Turks can´t do anything against them. There is a very beautiful famous Tajik girl, a singer, who sings often in chatagai language instead in Persian. Maybe you know who i mean.
Turks=Nomads, barbars who still live in tents and jurts/jirgas. They have own culture, no own cities, no own literature,...actually nothing..only donkies and horses.
(2) The Khaharazm Shahan were Persianized
(3) Saka language was Indo Iranic in India(modern day pashto).[/QUOTE]
Saka (Sythians, Arians) language was a dialect (nortrh eastern) of Bactrian language and a north eastern dialect of Khotak, therefore linguists also use Khotansaka. A part of Sakas were moving to Rajastan from Sistan when Parthians took control over their country (modern Sistan). Another time they were again driven out by the Tocharians, Kushanas to India. Pashtuns and Pashto are unrelated to Sakas and their language. Pushto didn´t exist before india´s Moghul era. Encyclopedia iranica don´t belive Pashto is older than 500 years but to be ''on the green side'', they also believe Pashto´s chronical birth (cause of ''Puta Khazana which is global disputed) goes back to 900 A.D. Pashto, as an SOUTH EASTERN ''IRANIZED/PERSIANIZED'' language is more related with it´s ergoratives with Dravidian, Indian, Tibetan and Chinese language than with Iranaians. BS
Pashtun bastards are from their aryan line descandants of Ashvakans, a nomadic and small tribe originally from the Sulaiman mountains. Sakas/Sistan was known for it´s high culture and ''desert civilization'' (Sang e Sorghi)....Pashatins are known for nomadism and barbarism..
Afghan and Ashvakan relationship
Numerous scholars of note now believe that the name Afghan has been derived from Sanskrit Ashvaka or Ashvakan (q.v), the Assakenoi of Arrian[33]. This view was propounded by scholars like Dr Christian Lassen [34], Dr J. W. McCrindle [35], M. V. de Saint Martin [36] etc, and has been supported by numerous modern scholars [37] [38] [39]. In Sanskrit, word ashva (Iranian aspa, Prakrit assa) means "horse", and ashvaka (Prakrit assaka) means "horseman" [40], "horse people" [41], "land of horses" [42]
The Afghans should correspondingly have belonged to the Ashvakans of part of modern Pashtunwa and parts of Baluchistan who immigrated as nomads first from the north to the Sulaiman Mountains and in the second Millennium A.D to eastward to north India until Bengal. In Peshawar and its surrounding regions and valleys they replaced the indigenous population of Gakhars and other ethnic indians slowly but for certain and their settled areas Babur mentioned in his Baburnamah as Afghanistan and the people as Afghans. The Afghans as a united nation started their career in the 18th century by serving Persian rulers like Nader Khan Afshari. After his death one of his warlords, Ahmad Khan Abdali called himself Emir of Khurasan and based the first structures of modern Afghanistan which cut eastern Persia from it´s west part. Also in earlier time of the medi-evil some tribes of turkco-mongolian origine who belong today to the nation of Pashtuns began making career as slaves of the Persian Ghurids and perso-turkish Ghurids of India and ruled after the death of the Persian Ghurid general Aybak (himself of turkic origine) the Indo-Ghurid Empire further as Slave-Dynasty known also as Mamluk dynasty of Delhi. See: Lodhi dynasty and Khilji dynasty .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashvayana
Samarqand is the middle Persian word for Marakanda and it is a pure Persian word. Samarqand is one of the oldest countries/ cities in the world. Turks are unrelated with Samarqand, also with Bukhara.
In Khwarezmia, still Tajiks live proudly and dirty tailed Turks can´t do anything against them. There is a very beautiful famous Tajik girl, a singer, who sings often in chatagai language instead in Persian. Maybe you know who i mean.
Turks=Nomads, barbars who still live in tents and jurts/jirgas. They have own culture, no own cities, no own literature,...actually nothing..only donkies and horses.
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