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Posted 30 July 2008 - 01:19 AM

Im a tajik from tashkent...when people first see me and ask where im from i say "tashkent, uzbekistan"...they say "oh so you're uzbek"...i say "no i'm tajik"...they say "oh but you probably only speak uzbek right?" i say " man tojikam, tojiki gap mezanam..."...and im surprised to see their stunned faces... Why should it be a surprise that a tajik from tashkent speaks tajiki rather than uzbeki?...and im one of the few tajiks (well me and my family) that all have "tajik" in our passports not "uzbek"...people are even more surprised when i tell them this....but at the same time...my family..much rather have relations with people with uzbekistan than people from tajikistan....i have no idea why...my grandparents...and parents...and i were all born in tashkent...so three generations...maybe thats why...but we cant forget our roots...which come from poonghaz (ashtskiy rayon) tadjikistan...we still have a lot of relatives there...i was mainly raised in europe and united states...so i never understood this concept of tajiks and uzbeks...tajikistanis...and uzbekistanis...samarqandis and tashkents...i have no idea why all these people waste their energy and time fighting each other...when they should save that time and energy unite it...and use it against the system..against the ridiculously corrupt leaders...maybe then they could actually get somewhere...until that happens these countries are only digging their own graves...deeper...and deeper...
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 03:54 AM

[QUOTE=SETAREH;12537]Im a tajik from tashkent...when people first see me and ask where im from i say "tashkent, uzbekistan"...they say "oh so you're uzbek"...i say "no i'm tajik"...they say "oh but you probably only speak uzbek right?" i say " man tojikam, tojiki gap mezanam..."...and im surprised to see their stunned faces... Why should it be a surprise that a tajik from tashkent speaks tajiki rather than uzbeki?...and im one of the few tajiks (well me and my family) that all have "tajik" in our passports not "uzbek"...people are even more surprised when i tell them this....but at the same time...my family..much rather have relations with people with uzbekistan than people from tajikistan....i have no idea why...my grandparents...and parents...and i were all born in tashkent...so three generations...maybe thats why...but we cant forget our roots...which come from poonghaz (ashtskiy rayon) tadjikistan...we still have a lot of relatives there...i was mainly raised in europe and united states...so i never understood this concept of tajiks and uzbeks...tajikistanis...and uzbekistanis...samarqandis and tashkents...i have no idea why all these people waste their energy and time fighting each other...when they should save that time and energy unite it...and use it against the system..against the ridiculously corrupt leaders...maybe then they could actually get somewhere...until that happens these countries are only digging their own graves...deeper...and deeper...[/QUOTE]

SETAREH jan, khohari shirin, khush omadi ba forumi Tajikam! Az omadanat ba in forum khele khursand shudam.
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:49 PM

Dear Setareh,

Welcome to your own forum.

Do you visit Uzbekistan at times? Can you give us first-hand info or your own view about the present state of affairs with Uzbekistani Tajiks?

[QUOTE=SETAREH;12537]Im a tajik from tashkent...when people first see me and ask where im from i say "tashkent, uzbekistan"...they say "oh so you're uzbek"...i say "no i'm tajik"...they say "oh but you probably only speak uzbek right?" i say " man tojikam, tojiki gap mezanam..."...and im surprised to see their stunned faces... Why should it be a surprise that a tajik from tashkent speaks tajiki rather than uzbeki?...and im one of the few tajiks (well me and my family) that all have "tajik" in our passports not "uzbek"...people are even more surprised when i tell them this....but at the same time...my family..much rather have relations with people with uzbekistan than people from tajikistan....i have no idea why...my grandparents...and parents...and i were all born in tashkent...so three generations...maybe thats why...but we cant forget our roots...which come from poonghaz (ashtskiy rayon) tadjikistan...we still have a lot of relatives there...i was mainly raised in europe and united states...so i never understood this concept of tajiks and uzbeks...tajikistanis...and uzbekistanis...samarqandis and tashkents...i have no idea why all these people waste their energy and time fighting each other...when they should save that time and energy unite it...and use it against the system..against the ridiculously corrupt leaders...maybe then they could actually get somewhere...until that happens these countries are only digging their own graves...deeper...and deeper...[/QUOTE]
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=Afrasiab;12542]SETAREH jan, khohari shirin, khush omadi ba forumi Tajikam! Az omadanat ba in forum khele khursand shudam.[/QUOTE]

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Kambiz;12566]Dear Setareh,

Welcome to your own forum.

Do you visit Uzbekistan at times? Can you give us first-hand info or your own view about the present state of affairs with Uzbekistani Tajiks?[/QUOTE]

well i left Uzbekistan 9 years ago....but even while i lived there...i was brought up in a Russianized community...went to an all Russian private school...however...my mother....is half Uzbek half Tajik...

well it all depends actually....on who the person is....there are some uzbeks that are very nice and understanding and know better than to discriminate. The are also tajiks that are ignorant. But for the most part, Tajiks and Uzbeks cant stand each other. When my mom first came into this family...she didn't speak Uzbek, unfortunately my fathers family ridiculed her...and didn't treat her that well, it was really hard for her but shes a strong woman and she survived it. From what I'm told by other Tajiks and Uzbeks, Tajiks aren't welcome in Uzbekistan...this should be obvious to everyone...although technically...its our land too. If your passport says TOJIK...you're not going far, career wise especially...and there are a lot of Uzbek site if you go in the forums...all they do is insult and curse Tajiks. Luckily when I was in Uzbekistan not a lot of people could say anything negative to me my father was a government official...and so was my grandfather, both had a lot of power...
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Posted 31 July 2008 - 12:37 AM

Setareh-jan,

Sadly, this is exactly what I hear from my contacts in Uzbekistan.

However, we have to keep in touch with them via the Internet or all other possible means and ask them if they need our assistance in anything.

I'm accustomed to hostile Uzbek forums, but nothing should discourage us from following our cause.

Anyway, I'm extremely happy to see you here among us and hopefully you are going to have a long and pleasant stay in Tajikam.com;)

[QUOTE=SETAREH;12571]well i left Uzbekistan 9 years ago....but even while i lived there...i was brought up in a Russianized community...went to an all Russian private school...however...my mother....is half Uzbek half Tajik...

well it all depends actually....on who the person is....there are some uzbeks that are very nice and understanding and know better than to discriminate. The are also tajiks that are ignorant. But for the most part, Tajiks and Uzbeks cant stand each other. When my mom first came into this family...she didn't speak Uzbek, unfortunately my fathers family ridiculed her...and didn't treat her that well, it was really hard for her but shes a strong woman and she survived it. From what I'm told by other Tajiks and Uzbeks, Tajiks aren't welcome in Uzbekistan...this should be obvious to everyone...although technically...its our land too. If your passport says TOJIK...you're not going far, career wise especially...and there are a lot of Uzbek site if you go in the forums...all they do is insult and curse Tajiks. Luckily when I was in Uzbekistan not a lot of people could say anything negative to me my father was a government official...and so was my grandfather, both had a lot of power...[/QUOTE]
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Posted 31 July 2008 - 02:27 AM

Khush omadi, khohar! :) Umed dorem, in tornoma baroi boz ham nazdiktar gardonidani Porsoni Osiyoi Miyona (CA Persians - Tajiks) khele kumak khohad kard. Az payyomat dar injo, khele khushnuda(e)m.

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[QUOTE=SETAREH;12537]Im a tajik from tashkent...when people first see me and ask where im from i say "tashkent, uzbekistan"...they say "oh so you're uzbek"...i say "no i'm tajik"...they say "oh but you probably only speak uzbek right?" i say " man tojikam, tojiki gap mezanam..."...and im surprised to see their stunned faces... Why should it be a surprise that a tajik from tashkent speaks tajiki rather than uzbeki?...and im one of the few tajiks (well me and my family) that all have "tajik" in our passports not "uzbek"...people are even more surprised when i tell them this....but at the same time...my family..much rather have relations with people with uzbekistan than people from tajikistan....i have no idea why...my grandparents...and parents...and i were all born in tashkent...so three generations...maybe thats why...but we cant forget our roots...which come from poonghaz (ashtskiy rayon) tadjikistan...we still have a lot of relatives there...i was mainly raised in europe and united states...so i never understood this concept of tajiks and uzbeks...tajikistanis...and uzbekistanis...samarqandis and tashkents...i have no idea why all these people waste their energy and time fighting each other...when they should save that time and energy unite it...and use it against the system..against the ridiculously corrupt leaders...maybe then they could actually get somewhere...until that happens these countries are only digging their own graves...deeper...and deeper...[/QUOTE]
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 08:52 PM

Most of young Tajiks in Uzbekistan go to Russia for work like in Tajikistan. The interesting part of the story is that Tajiks of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan work in the same cities, and even in the same constructions or markets and their relations are very strong. I know this for sure because I have many relatives and friends both in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan working and living together in Russia and I know that it is very widespread.

I have a strong feeling that 70-80% of labor migrants from Uzbekistan to Russia are Tajiks. In other words, Russia is becoming a unifying space not only for the Tajikis of Tajikistan but for the Tajiks of two countries. :)
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 06:28 AM

I don't think Russia is becoming a unifying space to unite Tajiks of Tajikistan and Tajiks of Uzbekistan, in general. Instead it has become a violent place and Russian government is not taking any means to solve the problem, although it is well aware of the issue. However, it's nice to hear at least for some it hasn't been so devastating as for the majority.



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Posted 02 January 2010 - 04:49 PM

Hello Friend:
Happy New Year!
I like this forum.
Is there any Uyghur in Tajikistan, or Iran?
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View Posthector, on 02 January 2010 - 04:49 PM, said:

Hello Friend:
Happy New Year!
I like this forum.
Is there any Uyghur in Tajikistan, or Iran?


wellcome to the forum.
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Posted 06 March 2010 - 02:01 PM

assalomu aleykum bacho va dukhtaro! Man Samarqandi tojik! ) az Uzbekiston hastam )
chitu shmo? :D
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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:16 PM

View PostAzim-khan, on 06 March 2010 - 02:01 PM, said:

assalomu aleykum bacho va dukhtaro! Man Samarqandi tojik! ) az Uzbekiston hastam )
chitu shmo? :D


salam doste aziz, be ein site khosh amaded.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:01 PM

View PostAzim-khan, on 06 March 2010 - 03:01 PM, said:

assalomu aleykum bacho va dukhtaro! Man Samarqandi tojik! ) az Uzbekiston hastam )
chitu shmo? :D


Khosh amadaed bradar e khunam. How is life in Uzbekistan? What can you tell us about the state and the people? I am very interested.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 08:28 AM

I really like to know more about Tajiks in Uzbekistan, like do they feel persian or uzbek, or do they wan to be with the iranian world or turkic world and things like that.
چــو ایــــــــران نبـاشد تن من مباد
بدین بوم و بر زنــده یک تن مباد
دریـغ است ایــران که ویران شود
کنـام پلنگـــــــان و شیــــــران شود
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 08:35 AM

View PostSohrab, on 21 July 2008 - 03:57 PM, said:

The uzbek Gov changed the Farsi Paper of Bukharai Sharif from persian to Uzbek a few years ago. I think the Bukharis are living in even worse condition compare to the samarqandis.



What do you mean by Paper? YEs you are right, Tajiks in Bukhara live worse than Samarqandis. Almost all surroundings of Bukhara nowadays (including Gijduvan and Romitan) speak Uzbaki.
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:08 AM

View PostParsi_zaban, on 30 September 2010 - 01:28 PM, said:

I really like to know more about Tajiks in Uzbekistan, like do they feel persian or uzbek, or do they wan to be with the iranian world or turkic world and things like that.


Many of them feel strong Tajik identity and still speak (sometimes hiddely at homes)in Farsi Tajiki (especially in eastern areas of Uzbakistan like Samarqand, Surkhondaryo, Namangon, etc.)
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:09 AM

View PostAzim-khan, on 06 March 2010 - 07:01 PM, said:

assalomu aleykum bacho va dukhtaro! Man Samarqandi tojik! ) az Uzbekiston hastam )
chitu shmo? :D


Vaaleikum assalom. Man az Dushanbe hastam. Khele shodam ki shumo ba tojiki gap mezaned. Dar tamos boshed.
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 09:23 AM

View PostTojik, on 31 December 2010 - 02:08 AM, said:

Many of them feel strong Tajik identity and still speak (sometimes hiddely at homes)in Farsi Tajiki (especially in eastern areas of Uzbakistan like Samarqand, Surkhondaryo, Namangon, etc.)

how about bukhara, how is the situation there?, is bukhara becoming uzbekized?, how could we help to re-persianize the tajiks there? what do you think is the future of tajiks in uzbekistan?
چــو ایــــــــران نبـاشد تن من مباد
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دریـغ است ایــران که ویران شود
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 10:45 AM

View PostDushanbe, on 06 August 2008 - 01:52 AM, said:

Most of young Tajiks in Uzbekistan go to Russia for work � like in Tajikistan. The interesting part of the story is that Tajiks of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan work in the same cities, and even in the same constructions or markets and their relations are very strong. I know this for sure because I have many relatives and friends both in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan working and living together in Russia and I know that it is very widespread.

I have a strong feeling that 70-80% of labor migrants from Uzbekistan to Russia are Tajiks. In other words, Russia is becoming a unifying space not only for the Tajikis of Tajikistan but for the Tajiks of two countries. :)


That sounds great!
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