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Posted 11 December 2007 - 11:08 PM

Since we have been talking about the government of Tajikistan. A topic came out of that to my mind. In the beginning of this year, president of Tajikistan, Emomalii Rahmon (previously Emomali Rahmonov) has changes his name to a traditional Tajik culture. First it was mandantory, however, after dispute in Tajik government, it was preferrable to change your name from russianized to Tajik style.

Here is the article which gives you more information for our discussion here.

April 4, 2007 (RFE/RL) -- Tajik President Emomali Rahmon recently announced a decision to abandon the Slavic-style "-ov" suffix that has been part of his name for all his life. How might the Tajik president's move resonate in a region that spent many years under Russian, then Soviet, domination?

http://www.rferl.org...A9D399A403.html

My question to all of you, my Tajik brothers, are you for such policy or against? And answer to a big question of "WHY?"

You answer is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for all of you who are taking your time and contributing to our identity and the holy name of "TAJIK."


Peroz bemaned,



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Posted 12 December 2007 - 03:31 AM

I really appreciate this name change of Tajik president. He did what most tajiks were waiting for. I hope the whole Tajik people start following their president and remove the Russian ending of their names. We Tajiks of Afghanistan (or Khorasan) have always worried about the cultural and lenguestic influence of Russia on Tajiks and their culture, language and history. Fortunatly today Tajikistan is free and an independent country in the world, but Tajiks have lots to do in order to regain what they have lost in the past 90 (or more) years of Soviet occupation. Tajikistan represents all Tajiks and that's why it's VERY important that Tajik government and people work hard on both lenguestic and cultural parts of the country.

I know lots of Pashtuns who are making fun of some Tajik personalities of both Afghanistan and Tajikistan by adding an "ove" at the end of their names to humiliate Tajiks rich culture and history. For examples in chase of Ahmad Shah Massood, they use Massoodove. This way they want to say that Massood was a Russian Tajik or a Russianized Tajik, although this was not the case at all.
But my point is that it's very important to change this types of names in Tajikistan. May be the Tajik population doesn't know the importance of it now, but the more Tajiks regain their culture and clean it from foreign elements, the more its importance becomes visible.
[quote=PORS;3875]Since we have been talking about the government of Tajikistan. A topic came out of that to my mind. In the beginning of this year, president of Tajikistan, Emomalii Rahmon (previously Emomali Rahmonov) has changes his name to a traditional Tajik culture. First it was mandantory, however, after dispute in Tajik government, it was preferrable to change your name from russianized to Tajik style.

Here is the article which gives you more information for our discussion here.

April 4, 2007 (RFE/RL) -- Tajik President Emomali Rahmon recently announced a decision to abandon the Slavic-style "-ov" suffix that has been part of his name for all his life. How might the Tajik president's move resonate in a region that spent many years under Russian, then Soviet, domination?

http://www.rferl.org...A9D399A403.html

My question to all of you, my Tajik brothers, are you for such policy or against? And answer to a big question of "WHY?"

You answer is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for all of you who are taking your time and contributing to our identity and the holy name of "TAJIK."


Peroz bemaned,



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Posted 12 December 2007 - 01:01 PM

[quote=PORS;3875]Since we have been talking about the government of Tajikistan. A topic came out of that to my mind. In the beginning of this year, president of Tajikistan, Emomalii Rahmon (previously Emomali Rahmonov) has changes his name to a traditional Tajik culture. First it was mandantory, however, after dispute in Tajik government, it was preferrable to change your name from russianized to Tajik style.

Here is the article which gives you more information for our discussion here.

April 4, 2007 (RFE/RL) -- Tajik President Emomali Rahmon recently announced a decision to abandon the Slavic-style "-ov" suffix that has been part of his name for all his life. How might the Tajik president's move resonate in a region that spent many years under Russian, then Soviet, domination?

http://www.rferl.org...A9D399A403.html

My question to all of you, my Tajik brothers, are you for such policy or against? And answer to a big question of "WHY?"

You answer is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for all of you who are taking your time and contributing to our identity and the holy name of "TAJIK."


Peroz bemaned,



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Your question is for sure a rhetoric one, right? he did it good!!! Hope more Tajiks will cut that alien suffix from their names.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 01:38 PM

imam ali rahman did the good thing, and everyone should follow him.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 02:05 PM

i really appreciate this.
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 12:40 AM

I agree with the posted comments of my fellow Tajiks :)
Its very obvious its a good thing...I think...everyone should do it...the government has to oblige everybody to do it! ;)
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 01:18 AM

My question is not a rhetoric one, it's just a matter of being curious. >Just joking :)

Anyways, I STRONGLY AGREE and support his decision. I wanted to do that long time ago when I used to go to school. But at that time, it was not lawful and people wanted lots of money in order my name to be changed into my cultural one. However, after being conveyed of such news, I was excited and still excited. I will dismiss the suffix and make it original, Tajik, style. So, one of your hope will be accomplished, TajMahal. :)

At the end of the day, everybody will realize that they need their pure identity, it is just a matter of time and amount of efforts put by us.



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[quote=TajMahal;3882]Your question is for sure a rhetoric one, right? he did it good!!! Hope more Tajiks will cut that alien suffix from their names.[/quote]
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 02:14 AM

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=gFN025yuMD8]http://youtube.com/watch?v=gFN025yuMD8[/ame]

I found it very interesting. Could you "Admin" please move it to the video (history, culture) section? I tried but was not able.

Thanks in advance.


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Posted 14 December 2007 - 08:29 AM

The ending of my last name has ov, but I do not take changing my name seiously. In changing my name I will have to change my univertity degrees and many things which is very costly and time consuming. But I am glad that younger Tajiks (who are about 20-22 yaers) are very enthusistic about changing their names while taking passports and before receiving university degrees. So the new generation will come without ov and ova. I will change it after many years - when I will have a good and stable business carreer. I am now postgraduate sudent.

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 08:38 AM

[quote=Dushanbe;3938]The ending of my last name has ov, but I do not take changing my name seiously. In changing my name I will have to change my univertity degrees and many things which is very costly and time consuming. But I am glad that younger Tajiks (who are about 20-22 yaers) are very enthusistic about changing their names while taking passports and before receiving university degrees. So the new generation will come without ov and ova. I will change it after many years - when I will have a good and stable business carreer. I am now postgraduate sudent.

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yes, you are right, the next deneration need to get rid of this. and tell me what's the general population's mode regarding this name amendment? also, what the gov and at the same time ppl think about cyrillic alphabet, do they want to have farsi alphabet instead or just want to stick to cyrillic? because cyrillic alphabet is a huge communication barrier between us in afghanistan+iran and brothers in tajikistan. i always wanted to go to tajiki music sites, especially mubarakshah's website to download his songs, but didnt know a word in those sites.
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Posted 17 December 2007 - 04:58 AM

In reallity, it seems to me that the reaction towards name-change in Tajikistan was bigger from outside of Tajikistan than from inside. Many people had already changed their names before our president and it was not so big event. You need to know also that most of people of Tajikistan have good memories about Soviet times and this is not a surprise - because people were safe and economically well-to do (it is almost apposite now). Of course it is nice to return to our previous style of naming (before soviet) but not style of living.

As of syrillic alphabet. Personally, I do not think that we will return to arabic alphabet. The reasons:

1. Arabic letters are also called Muslim letters in our country. There is an idea ( ??? ) that it is better for us to have more relations & collaborations with European (non Islamic) countries than Islamic. It is better to have some barriers (at least alphabetically so that to make it difficult to learn arabic language) so that to reduce extremistic Islamic influence. (these are not my personal views - but general impressions)

2. Arabic alphabet is much more difficult to learn than syrillic one. As a result it will make the process of learning slow.

3. Although many our great peoples in that past used Arabic while writing, Arabic is not suitable for our language. In arabic not all sounds (vowals) are mentioned and you will just have to guess how to pronounce certain words. While in syrillic you will write down all the sounds that you will hear. This will help to save that language without much change from one generation to another.

I pesonally would have supported the idea of changing our alphabet into Latin so that to reduce the barrier between Farsizabanan. But it is very expensive and we cannot afford it yet.
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