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Posted 18 February 2008 - 07:59 AM

Dear Parsistani says:"Tajiks weren Lt opressed by Turks. Tajiks were the elites of turkish empires and sub-ruler. Even persian farmers had more value and pride for the turkish rulers than the own barbaric tribal men. Hassan Sabboh was the leader of the persian assasines (earlierst ''Qezelbash'' movement'' and indeed he was the first ''terrorist'' that the world had seen."

Zaboni inglisiro ba kanor meguzoramu bo Shumo barodaqri aziz bo zaboni modariamon gap mezanam.
Barodar, bo tamomi ehtirom ba shakhsiyati Shumo va sukhanonaton, boyad ba samyi Shumo birasonam, ki voqeiyati torikhi ghairi on ast, ki Shumo farmuded. Nazar ba aqidai Shumo tojikho ham dar barobari hokimoni Saljuqi dar rondani siyosati davlati haq va sahmi barobarro doro budaand va hej guna tabyizi najodi dar sohai faoliyati hukumati baynashon mavjud nabudaast.
Torikh guvoh ast, ki bo omadani aqvomi Turk bar sari hokimiyat dar sarzamini Khuroson millati tojik-fors hamesha zerdast, mazlum, sitamdida budaast va qavmi turk hamesha hokim, zolim va sitamgar ba shumor meraftaast.
Man alayhi millati turk nestam va onhoro ham misli ironinajodon millati buzurg va mutamaddin mehisobam. Vale on chize ki maro sakht norohat mekunad,in ideolojii past va ahmaqonai Panturkizm hast, ki hamesha bartari va afzaliyati aqvomi turkro tabligh namuda, maqsadi asosii on- in muttahid namudain aqvomi turk jihati hukm rondan bar digar millatho, alakhusus ironinajodon va zerdastu tobe nigoh doshtani onho meboshad.
Va agar ba torikhi ajdodon nazar kunem, yagona forsmarde, ki dar barobari hukumati mustabidi turk sari taslim furud naovard, hukumat va qudrati onhoro ba nazari eetibor nagirift, amru farmoni onhoro du tangai siyoh qadr nakard, dar sadoi qahru ghazabi onho raqs kard va ba ruyashon khandid, jomahoi buzurgvoriashnro bo shamsheri piskhandu tamaskhur pora-pora kard, shaanu sharafi nadoshtaashonro pomol kard, libosi kibru ghururi hokimonaashanro az tan kashida chun kudakoni saru po barahna giryonu nolon dar biyoboni sharmsorivu pushaymoni zeri qamchini ghazabi khesh darovard, chashmi purtamai ishonro ba joyashon shinonida, shikami farbehi hirsi onhoro bo khanjari adolatash misli dumbai gusfand daronid va moli haromi bo rohi jabru zulm bar tojikon andukhtaashonro az dahonu biniashon barovard, dar motamashon sur kard va surashonro harom kard, ruzashonro siyoh namud va shabashonro ba jahannam badal kard, khuroki lazizi shohonaashonro dar guluyashon zahrolud namuda, jomi sharobi nobashonro dar dastashon shikast, shabistonashonro khoriston gardonid va gulistonashonro-registon, dar gushi kaloni befahmashon naqorai adabu akhloq navokht, ayshashonro talkh va tarabashonro vayron kard, hamchun soya az pasashon rafta, hamesha onhoro dar tarsu haros nigoh medosht -- in Antipanturkisti avvali, qahramoni ghayur va jasuri millat, mardi mardon va rashki javonmardon, faylasufi zamon va siyosatmadori purtavon sayidi buzurg va odili davron Hassani Sabbohi Qumi meboshad.
Gumon namebaram, ki dar torikh misli u shakhse alayhi zulmi turk muboriz va daler dida shuda boshad.
Barodari giromiyam Parsistani, Shumo megued, ki tojikon ham dar davroni Saljuqi sohibi maqom va manzalati khose budaand. Bale, inro hej kas inkor namekunad, ki ba darbori hukumati saljuqi va digar aqvomi baadii turk tojikon roh doda meshudand. Ammo in boz yak siyosati makkorona va hilagaronai hokimoni turk bud, ki bo in roh mekhostand zulmu sitami khudro bar tojikon bo pardai sozish va hamkori bo mardumi tojik dar rondani siyosat bipushonand va ba poyai dastgohi istibdodi khesh boz ham taqviyat bakhshand. Torikh holo nadidaast, ki tojike dar darbori turkon be jabru zulm namudan bar tojikon dar idorai kishvar dast doshta boshad, va agar tasodufan tojike khilofi in raviya amal karda boshad, favran az sahnai siyosat dur karda shudaast, ki inro dar misloli abrmardoni tojik- Nizomulmulki Tusi va Ahmadi Donish didan mumkin ast. Chunonchi, darboriyoni turki saljuqi az nufuzi Nizomulmulki Tusi nigaron shuda, bo rohbarii zani Malikshoh -Turkon khotun ba fasodu ighvo pardokhtand va rui muboraki Tusiro dar chashmi Hassani Sabboh siyoh gardonda, uro khoin va panturkist qalamdod kardand, ki Hassani Sabboh majbur shud ba qatli hamqavm va dusti derinai khud- Nizomulmulki Tusi fatvo barorad.
Digari Ahmadi Donish ast, ki shabhoi daroz khobro bar khud harom karda, hazor-hazor varaq siyoh namud, to ba manghitoni turki befahm darsi siyosati odilona biomuzad, ammo navishtahoyashro na tanho nakhondand, balki khudi uro yakjoya bo navishtahoyash az darbor rondand. Ana hamin bud sazoi asrofonu darboriyoni tojike, ki bo khiradu qalami khesh monei siyosati jabboronai qavmi turk meshudand.
Biyo barodar millionho tojiki sargashtaro ba yod biovarem, ki az dami teghi berahmonai Sanjar, Temuri Lang, Ubaydullokhoni shayboni, Nasrullokhoni manghiti Qassob va Abdulahadi khunkhori qotili tojikoni Baljuvonu Khovaling guzaronda shudaand, hazor dukhtaroni javoni tojikro, ki dar shabi arusiashon majburan ba joykhobi shahvatronii hokimoni manghit burda meshudand va nomusashon bozichai shahvatbozii dasti kasifi ashrofoni manghit megardidand, sadhovu sadho bachagoni khurdsoli tojikoni kuhistoni Bukhoroi Sharqiro, ki az dasti volidaynashon bo jabr girifta meshudand va ba unvoni amradbacha ba amironi manghit baroi zinnat dodani majlisi bachaboziashon taqdim meshudand.

Sukhani Saadi Sheroziro ba yod biovarem, ki bo dardu alam meguft:

Shoyad ba podshoh biguyand,
Ki turki tu birekht khuni tojik.


Barodaroni forum gumon nakunand, ki man ba payravi az usuli terroristonai Hassani Sabboh daavat menamoyam. Hargiz. Man faqat mekhoham haqiqati torikhii hayoti mazlumonai tojikon dar zeri farmonravoyoni turk ravshan gardad va mavqe va joygohi torikhii Hassani Sabboh az nav dida shavad.
Hassani Sabboh antiturkist nabud, balki antipanturkist bud.U qassobi turkon nabud, balki muboriz alayhi panturkiston bud.
U barodari va barobarii hamai millathoro tashviq mekard.
Davlati bunyodkardaash dar Alamut misoli ravshani adolatkhohi va ozodkhohii ust.
Boyad tojikon misli Hassani Sabboh boshand, na dar manoi kushtoru qaqtli terroristona(HARGIZ), balki dar manoi millatdustii u, mehanparastii u, ozodikhohii u, matonat va sobitqadamii u dar rohi muboriza baroi barodari va barobarii tamomi millatho chi ironinajodon va chi turknajodon.

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Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:02 AM

Hassani Sabah is right. Historically it was the Oghuz Turkmens such as Ghaznevid & Qarakhanid Dynasties who overthrew the Samanid Empire.

Another Oghuz Turkoman called the Seljuqs overthrew the Persian-Daylamite Buyid Empire so all of Persia came under Turkic rule, but it was Tajiks such as Nizamolmolk and Tajolmolk who were viziers to Seljuq Sultans who made sure Persian stays as official language of the empire. So in fact, the Turkmens who were forign became Persianised :-)

This even becomes more obvious during the reign of Timurid and Timurid successor states such as Safavid,Afshar & Qajars of Persia all had persian as official language, all celebrated Nowruz and many had persian names.

All Persian speaking people should be alerted and cautious. Pan-Turkism is a danger for all of us.Today in Iranian Golestan and North Khorasan province, there are separatists who dream about creating South Turkmenistan with capital Gorgan and Khorasani Turkistan with capital Bojnord.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:54 AM

Thanks, Hassani Sabboh, for good post.
I think that turks (uzbeks) are a big cultural enemy of Tajiks in northern Khorasan (Tajikistan, Samarqand, Bukhara). Turks are not dangerous for southern Khorasan. There we have another big enemy - wild pashtuns.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 11:04 AM

[quote=Afrasiab;6081]Thanks, Hassani Sabboh, for good post.
I think that turks (uzbeks) are a big cultural enemy of Tajiks in northern Khorasan (Tajikistan, Samarqand, Bukhara). Turks are not dangerous for southern Khorasan. There we have another big enemy - wild pashtuns.[/quote]
It's just because in Afghanistan they are in minority. It would be better in both parts of Khorasan to assimilate Uzbeks to Tajiks. Most of them are Iranic and inclined to the Persian language. Their culture is absolutely Persian.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 08:25 PM

Uzbeks are more dangerous than Pashtuns in North Western Afghanistan(Samangan,Sar e pol, Balkh, Jowsjan,Faryab). Dont forget what malek and Dostum did to Tajiks in the 90s when they allied themselves with Hekmatyar first then the Taliban.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 11:16 PM

[quote=Gul agha;6095]Uzbeks are more dangerous than Pashtuns in North Western Afghanistan(Samangan,Sar e pol, Balkh, Jowsjan,Faryab). Dont forget what malek and Dostum did to Tajiks in the 90s when they allied themselves with Hekmatyar first then the Taliban.[/quote]
I'm sure it is possible to turn them into friends. I've done it with a couple of Uzbeks from Uzbekistan in London. They hated Persians/Tajiks before, now they speak Persian almost fluently:)
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 08:31 AM

[quote=Darius;6116]I'm sure it is possible to turn them into friends. I've done it with a couple of Uzbeks from Uzbekistan in London. They hated Persians/Tajiks before, now they speak Persian almost fluently:)[/quote]

Uzbeks are ok, but Uzbekistan govt has been enemy of Tajiks forever. Tajikistan and Iran should unite and bring Uzbekistan govt to negotiation table for return of Tajik land back to Tajikistan. Let's look at the real picture, Uzbekistan has robbed Tajikistan of her true national and cultural capitals Bukhara and Samarqand. Let's hope Karaqalpakistan becomes independant and Tajik territory will return to Tajikistan.

Tajikistan hamishe Javedan.
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