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  1. In Topic: Modernization of Tajik culture

    Posted 23 May 2008

    [QUOTE=Afrasiab;9350]Faridun jani aziz, bisyor nazari purmuhtavo va peshnihodoti jolibro navishted.
    Az barodaron uzr ki ba'ze andeshahoyamro ba forsi va khati lotini menavisam.

    Banda chunin fikr mekunam, ki chunin bakhshhoi farhang (culture) chun rasmu an'anahoi milli va mazhabi, in mas'alai khele nozuk ast va har iqdomi digarsozi va modernsozi, ki dar in samt girifta meshavad, boyad khele bo ehtiyot anjom shavad. Va tahiyai tarhho va peshnihodho baroi modernsozii rasmu rusumi millivu mazhabi boyad az sui ravshanfikronu donishmandoni millat va mutakhassisonu ruhoniyoni varzidai mazhabi anjom shavad. (Vale in manoi onro nadorad ki tanho yak-du ziyoi va ruhoni haqi barrasi va digarsozii rasmu rusumro boyad doshta boshad. Mavzui modernsozii farhangi tojikiro boyad hama bahsu barrasi kunand, vale tarhe yo peshnihode, ki qabul meshavad, boyad az sui peshvoyoni varzidai ziyoi va ruhonii millat tarhrezi shavad).

    Na misli Qonuni tanzim-i rayosati jumhurii Tojikiston, ki az suyi ideologhoi hukumati be yagon tahqiqu barrasii ziyoiyon va ruhoniyoni varzidai millat ba sari mardum bor shud va natijahoi on manfi ham hast va khohad bud ( yake az in natijaho on ast ki imruz dukhtari tojik beqadr shudaast va shumori taloqho chand barobar beshtar gashtaast, zero bo 500 dollar metavon khonador shud). Hukumati Tojikiston ba joi on ki khurofotro az bayn bubarad, bo qonuni navash rasmu rusumi millivu mazhabiro, ki jomeai tojikiro pobarjo medorad, tahti khatar mondaast.

    Urfu odat va rasmu an'anoti millivu mazhabi (traditions) dar kull zerbinoi jomeai har qavmu millatand va naandeshida kam kardan yo zam kardani bakhshe az in zerbino metavonad yak omili rukudi in zerbino shavad. Har yak urfu odat va rasmu rusum zamone dar bayni mardum paydo shudaast va falsafai khudro dorad, ki onro na har vaqt metavon ba zudi dark kard.

    Vale gap sari on ast, ki vaqte mo modernsozii ananotu rasmu rusumi milli meguyem, namuna baroi mo kadom farhang boyad boshad? Yo umuman namunae ba mo dar in kor lozim ast? Va imruz kadom juzhoi farhangi millii mo khurofot ast va boyad digarsozi shavad?[/QUOTE]

    Thank Your, dear Friend! Certainly, This code of law has a lot of shortcomings and it must be reconsidered. You are right. I have nothing more to add.
  2. In Topic: Modernization of Tajik culture

    Posted 23 May 2008

    [QUOTE=Nader Shah;9397] 8) To develop the capacity for and practice independent thought and judgment in a rational manner (except in areas where irfan/philosophy and intuition provide an edge)
    9) To stop putting relatives or hamshahri in positions of power (in government or business) and instead promote competent, experienced, and well-educated people who can get things done
    10) To properly plan and allocate resources for the development of the country for 20 years ahead, and to be passionate about instead of being indifferent and enjoy the fat salaryies, and stop playing with their balls at their desk and react with short term patch solutions[/QUOTE]

    Thank You, dear Nadershah! Very good suggestions! If you have any more hidden in your pocket, please, dont be shy:), put them here.
  3. In Topic: Modernization of Tajik culture

    Posted 22 May 2008

    [QUOTE=Afrasiab;9294]In another theme our brother - PORS has told, that we Tajiks should modernize our traditions, our culture. The interesting opinion, but appears a question: how to modernize our traditions? To refuse some our traditions and to accept traditions of europeans? How it is possible to modernize our culture? Also what is the Tajik culture is?
    What do you think about it?[/QUOTE]

    Hello, Brother! You have opened an important thread. Really as our dear friend Porsjon mentioned our culture should be modernized ( in a good sence, of course)

    What is culture? I refered to vocabulary and found:

    culture- the sum total of the ways of life of a people; includes norms, learned behavior patterns, attitudes, and artifacts; also involves traditions, habits or customs; how people behave, feel and interact; the means by which they order and interpret the world; ways of perceiving, relating and interpreting events based on established social norms; a system of standards for perceiving, believing, evaluating, and acting.

    This definition can be employed in description of every singular culture, including tajik one, as a major abstract rule. In order to understand tajik culture we should reveal its singular elements within its common charasterics with the other cultures.
    I think that the cornerstone of tajik culture as a nation having been formed in 7-8 centr. on the ground of persian-eastern iranian elements in Central Asia is a persianised islam weather it is hanafi, jaafari, or ismaili.The religion and mythology are the basis of every culture and they shape and develop it. If we trace the development of tajik-persian culture and civilization we see that the spiriual push to further creation was given by religion in its different interpretations. Even the greek philosophy was interpreted under the light of tajik-muslim heritage.
    What do we mean by saying "persianized" islam? It is totally diferrent from arabic-bedouin islam or from indonesian islam which are centered only at Koran and hadith and lack an active creative intelectual and spiritual potential for further increasingly development. Persianized islam is an transformed and developed islam by means of the rich preislamic iranian cultural heritage.
    Such movements like Mutaazila, Shiizm, Sufizm, schools of islamic philosophy and etc. emerged on the ground of iranian system of thoght and believes.
    We can say that the tajik culture is a mixture of iranian preislamic and islamic elements which shape every side of tajik identity begining from mystical trances :)or the way of philosophical thinking and ending with a form of dresses .
    If we exclude islam it means that we must say farewell to our 1400 years cultural heritage.

    To modernize tajik culture one should throw away elements that are old, senial and pick out progressive ones and develop them.

    I think in Tajikistan we need these:

    1) Separation of religion from state and policy, the abolition of Islamic party.
    2) To recognise hanafi islam as spiritual and moral cornerstone of our culture.
    3) To reduce arabic elements in everything (language, names, dresses etc.), except for praying and increase preislamic iranian heritage, espessialy Zoroastrian one, to the extend that doesnt contradict the essence of islam:?First -Quran, second- Shahnameh.
    4) To shake off primitive prejudices and to develop the philosophical type of thinking, irfan (persian mysticism), persian past and present literature.
    5) Dresses:Neither being covered like bedouins nor being naked like western people.
    6) Arts should reflect high values and aim at giving the people morality and arousing good feelings. (Not to show the breast, of course:))...
    7) To accept progressive elements of european civilization which will not harm morality (science, technologies, etc.)

    If you have more ideas, please add.
  4. In Topic: Tha Official Shabnami surayo's stie

    Posted 21 May 2008

    [QUOTE=Afrasiab;9222]Iranian mullahs and the Tajik (Khorasanian) culture are different things.
    Naked hips on a stage is not the Tajik culture. I think that 95% of the population of Tajikistan is agree with it.[/QUOTE]

    Thank You, my Brother! I would add : not 95, but 99,9% of Tajikistanies dont like when tajik girl show her intime parts of the body trying to attract someone`s preversed attention. In Tajikistan you seldom see tajik girl with a open breast, but such sort of girls mostly were broght up in russian oriented enviorenment, who have totally forgotten their tajik mentality and tossed away true tajik traditional and cultural values. Though I respect Nadershah and others, but I want to remind them that when they mention the word "Tajik" they should refrain from all of the western stereotipes of looking at tradition, culture and morality. Khorasanian society is truely a traditional society which cannot afford any moral and spiritual degradation. During 70 years of atheistic regime tajiks did not lose their moral nature, including faith in God. Nadershah always condemns islam as being an arabic stuff imposed on iranians, bu he doesnt notice (or doesnt want to notice) that he himself tries to impose on us western values that contradict the very essence of tajik way of living. When we speak about morality and spiritual values aiming only at teaching people how to be a human, he calls us "mulla". Pardon, we are neither mulla nor guru. We are human being whose destiny can be found just in living according to moral imperatives unlike animals and insects which act what their instincts order to do. Moral imperatives have nothing to do with such preversed notions as "mulla", "pope", "akhund", "guru", "priest", "sheykh", "pir", and etc.
    Shabnam Surayo is a good singer and we are proud of her. But it doesnt mean that we should stop condemning her bad actions. We should try to correct her and make her relapse into tajik tradition and culture.

    Look at the beauty:

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  5. In Topic: Woman Naked on Webcam OK - Ayatollah MS Rohani

    Posted 14 May 2008

    [QUOTE=Nader Shah;8996]There were many Shiites in Iran even before the Safavids, including some of the most "asil" iranians were shiite to begin with (including Gilan). So, let's not blame Azeris again for everything. I am against organized religion, but the Safavids are also credited for reviving Iran once again from its ashes, and no they were not simply Azeri Turks, but had tati, gilaki, kurdish, and other ancestry. Without Safavids, Iran may not have existed except as a bunch of "stans". However, I agree there were many excesses in forcibly converting people and also alienating Sunni Persians and other Sunnis.

    I am not supporting ayatollahs ... this was a kind of joke posted on iranian.com ... please have a sense of humour. However, unlike Sunni preachers, some Ayatollahs do give new fatvas which allow for evolution and change in the thinking of people, which is why Shiism will be better able to modernize and evolve than Sunnism ... although ideally, I would like both to be dead ... sorry[/QUOTE]


    Ahangar is right. Jaafari Shiizm which exists in Iran is not liberal.?May be in some questions of Fiqh it gives people a slight freedom but as a political doctrine is considered as heretical and antiliberal and antiindividual sect. Jaafari Shiizm is the product of westernpersian reaction to Omeyad sunni islam. Shiizm was formed among those persians who lived in western part of Iran - Iraq, syria, lebanon etc. But due to our open-minded ancestor who did not assent to his national emotions the northern persians- Khorasanians became untouched by shiizm. Hanafizm is persianized orthodoxial sunnizm. It is the most liberal schoool in Islam. Abu Hanifa persianized sunni islam. He took into account many iranians customs and traditions during passing fatwaas. He was the first man who used qiyas - analogy in fiqh which meant the ratiolanalization of religion. Imam Jaafar blamed him in herecy claiming that it was Satan who had used qiyas before by not bowing to Adam. Ahmad ibn Hanbal the father of pure arabic traditional sunni islam also cursed him.
    Unfortunately the disciples of Abu Hanifa , especially Abu Yusuf did not adhere to Abu Hanifa method of thinking and since that time this school became rigid and the process of persianization was stoped.
    I advise all of Iranians to become hanafits. :)

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